This or simply pay the tiny fee per head/mo the BLM was asking for.

I'm just as concerned in recent times about irrational mistrust of government, like this Bundy situation is exploiting, as I was the blind unquestioning, "with us or against us" rhetoric; like that which was exploited in the years after 9/11.

Not to continue to derail too much, but I've read that millennials and I think Gen Xers tend to be more supportive of government action in general than older adults especially Baby Boomers. Younger people nowadays have a more collective mindset where individual freedoms are downplayed in exchange for the improvement of everyone. Obviously this doesn't hold across all individuals and it's a large generalization, but this is how differences between generations has been portrayed according to some sources.

This dude is funny. Feed your cattle for free for 2 decades? Welp, I don't have 1 milly to pay these fees might as well have a revolution. Lol. Bundy thinks he is the leader of a new civil war. Not even king winghole Beck is taking his side. It's not going to end good for him.

Sweep Single doing work. brb gonna go rub one out to Lockup Raw.

The comment section of this article is a must read.

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2014/04...-cliven-bundy/

Partly true and partly I think the US is just behind the development curve of other countries.... religion, guns, capital punishment, universal healthcare... we are only 200+ years old, going to take a few more generations for us to catch up. Govt can clearly be a source for good (helping hungry kids eat or preventing old people from dying penniless in the streets for ex.), takes a few centuries for the anti-govt paranoia to recede.

Delivers.

Separately, I am increasingly enraged that nobody is in jail. In all seriousness, HOW THE **** CAN THESE PEOPLE POINT AK-47s AT FEDERAL AGENTS WITH NO CONSEQUENCES????? Like, hundreds of poor black people die for doing way less every single year (month?).

Didn't you hear? They weren't actually serious. They were just clowning around, man. No big deal.

Lol, what, of course they are. They just havent been in control since Jan 2009. Even in the minority they have been super upset from time to time like when Obama stopped defending the obviously unconstitutional law DOMA and to prioritise deportations to avoid targeting kids.

People only get upside when it is their own action being criticised, but its like a universal thing everyone everwhere does. The "crappy republican party" is no different.

Amazing how the lefties have no problem with a military wing of the Bureau of Land Management. The BLM brings snipers and swat teams intending to what exactly? Next thing you know the para military force of the Department of Education will be kicking in doors of US citizens for no reason. Oops too late, already happened.

Quote:

U.S. Department of Education Office of Inspector General special agents broke into a California home at 6 a.m. Tuesday and reportedly roughed up a man because of a student aid issue involving his estranged wife. His wife was not present.

In 2010, the Post’s Valerie Strauss reported that the Education Department was purchasing 27 Remington Brand Model 870 police 12-gauge shotguns to replace old firearms used by Education’s Office of Inspector General, which is the law enforcement arm of the department. DoE said the guns were necessary to help enforce “waste, fraud, abuse, and other criminal activity involving Federal education funds, programs, and operations.”

Ccccccccooooooolllllll !!!

I know you love to be hilariously wrong/uninformed on every topic you pipe up on but sure, let's give this a go.

Maybe they showed up in force because of his insistence that he was going to have a 'range war' with the feds? Maybe it was because he was calling in supporters, aka militias and the like, to help defend 'his' land? Maybe it's the history of the BLM offices actually being attacked in this area over this stuff?

But no, you're right. They just wanted to show up with snipers (note the only picture of a sniper I've seen was one of the nuts on an overpass) and SWAT teams just because they want to intimidate normal, everyday law abiding citizens into giving up their stuff. Never mind the fact that it's not his stuff, he's not abiding by the laws and has lost court case after court case for nearly 20 years.

lol

From your link:

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Correction: The Department of Education did not conduct the search by a SWAT team, nor does the Department of Education own or operate a SWAT Team, as was originally reported.

This story delivers

Apparently he had some grand grandmother that might have helped found the town and that's it. Instead of some clear ancestral claim to the land, Bundy's parents moved to the ranch in 1948 from Arizona and started grazing the cattle in 1954. The BLM was created in 1946.

Also this gem.

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/253015...under-scrutiny

This is just too perfect.

I don't know, sounds like the DoE is just arming its teachers like conservatives have asked.

lol adios

I totally support dropping this, but there's two points I didn't see anyone bring up so far.

1. The Hack gap

2. Where do you know these people from? Because if it's from the internet, they yes, I would think that having access to some X billion people more than you did in 1990 would net the occasional person who always supports the government (even though I'm entirely sure they are a figment of your imagination).

fyp

Protect themselves from the violent insurgents pointing guns at them?

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I see the point of your post. And I still say that your characterization only exists in the RW echo chamber. I don't see people cheerleading for big govt. People root for certain social programs, of course, but not for "big govt."

Perhaps you can cite some linkable examples of such behaviour? Maybe a rally in support of specifically big government? A political group who outwardly admits that they're goal is the promotion and support of big government/

Under Attack Depth of Federal Arms Race Should Shock Citizens

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“It’s one of the untold stories about government,” said former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, who lives in Taos, is an avid skier and has been a leading critic of the operation that turned up only a few minor infractions. “People don’t grasp the size and the scope of these entities and their law enforcement arms.”

It may come as a surprise to many U.S. taxpayers, but a slew of federal agencies — some whose responsibilities seem to have little to do with combating crime — carry active law enforcement operations.

Here’s a partial list:

The U.S. Department of Education
The Bureau of Land Management (200 uniformed law enforcement rangers and 70 special agents)
The U.S. Department of the Interior
The U.S. Postal Inspection Service (with an armed uniformed division of 1.000)
The National Park Service (made up of NPS protection park rangers and U.S. Park Police officers that operate independently)
The Environmental Protection Agency (200 special agents)
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (224 special agents)
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration

That’s right, NOAA — the folks who forecast the weather, monitor the atmosphere and keep tabs on the oceans and waterways — has its own law enforcement division. It has a budget of $65 million and consists of 191 employees, including 96 special agents and 28 enforcement officers who carry weapons.

Interesting that you think that being alarmed by this crap is fringe level thinking. Duly noted.

Since when did right-wingers worry about people carrying guns? Y'all are the ones who want schoolteachers to pack heat, FFS.

Also, looooooooooool at thinking organizations like fish and game or the park advice have nothing to do with law enforcement.

Lol it takes 2 minutes to look this sh*t up adios

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio...aw_Enforcement

NOAA has enforcement officers because for whatever bureaucratic reason they are charged with enforcing various wildlife statutes. They are basically game wardens. Not some jack booted thug of meteorologists.

jesus this is the most correct comparison to ikes ever