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Old 07-09-2012, 12:50 PM   #926
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

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I'll make it easier since you seem to want to argue just for the sake of arguing (kinda your thing). Primary source of income should be taxed, everything else shouldn't. So, if gambling is your primary source of income, it should be taxed. If it's not, it shouldn't.

How's that? So, if you want to moonlight as a piano teacher (even though both you and I know that's entirely different then going to the casino for a few hours), go for it and I'm completely cool with it being untaxed.

Better?
Under this regime you encourage people to have nominal primary jobs just to avoid taxes on the jobs they actually enjoy doing and are probably good at.

It also may not seen obvious to you, but recreational gamblers require the services of law enforcement to have a safe environment to gamble in too.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:52 PM   #927
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Under this regime you encourage people to have nominal primary jobs just to avoid taxes on the jobs they actually enjoy doing and are probably good at.
That should be someone's campaign platform...
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:52 PM   #928
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Under this regime you encourage people to have nominal primary jobs just to avoid taxes on the jobs they actually enjoy doing and are probably good at.
How do you think primary is going to be determined? Because I think you think something different than I think (haha).
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:53 PM   #929
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Goodie, you are a national treasure. USA #1
So, I'm arguing with a guy that thinks society should exist with no taxes and deflects when asked to explain how that would work and I'm the outcast?
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:08 PM   #930
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How would you?
I wouldn't try to, I'm not the one who wants to get all up in everyone's business.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 01:09 PM   #931
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How do you think primary is going to be determined? Because I think you think something different than I think (haha).
Well you won't tell us what you think so I guess we'll never know.
 
Old 07-09-2012, 01:25 PM   #932
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Well you won't tell us what you think so I guess we'll never know.
Primary would be the job that made the person the most amount of money.

Simple.

I haven't thought this whole system through though (obviously, since this particular piece is really not all that important to me) so don't do the whole "pvn" thing where you want all the intricacies of how this would work in real life. If you really don't understand my overall thinking here, I'll explain that again.
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:26 PM   #933
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I wouldn't try to, I'm not the one who wants to get all up in everyone's business.
PVN, I can't search through all the threads to see how you think society should work without taxes. I promise I won't attack you. Can you just give me the cliffs?
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Old 07-09-2012, 01:55 PM   #934
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Primary would be the job that made the person the most amount of money.
OK, so how do you determine what constitutes a single job?

I have a lot of difference clients, I do different things for all of them.

Are those separate jobs and only one of them is my "real" job?
 
Old 07-09-2012, 01:56 PM   #935
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PVN, I can't search through all the threads to see how you think society should work without taxes. I promise I won't attack you. Can you just give me the cliffs?
Nope. I don't know how it would work. I know that will drive you crazy because you have this weird obsession with micromanaging everything like simcity and the idea of people just doing what they want all willy nilly probably keeps you awake at night.
 
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OK, so how do you determine what constitutes a single job?

I have a lot of difference clients, I do different things for all of them.

Are those separate jobs and only one of them is my "real" job?
I haven't thought this whole system through though (obviously, since this particular piece is really not all that important to me) so don't do the whole "pvn" thing where you want all the intricacies of how this would work in real life. If you really don't understand my overall thinking here, I'll explain that again.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:00 PM   #937
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Nope. I don't know how it would work. I know that will drive you crazy because you have this weird obsession with micromanaging everything like simcity and the idea of people just doing what they want all willy nilly probably keeps you awake at night.
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!

HELLO POT, I'M KETTLE and I'M REALLY REALLY REALLY BLACK.

This is ALL you do. Like, quite LITERALLY, ALL YOU DO!!!!!!! My god. I'm actually shocked. Like, legitimately, real world shocked, at this response.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:03 PM   #938
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It's table tennis with text lol
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:25 PM   #939
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I haven't thought this whole system through though (obviously, since this particular piece is really not all that important to me) so don't do the whole "pvn" thing where you want all the intricacies of how this would work in real life. If you really don't understand my overall thinking here, I'll explain that again.
Not only do I not understand your thinking, it's becoming increasingly apparently that YOU don't understand it, either.
 
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HOLY CRAP!!!!!!

HELLO POT, I'M KETTLE and I'M REALLY REALLY REALLY BLACK.

This is ALL you do. Like, quite LITERALLY, ALL YOU DO!!!!!!! My god. I'm actually shocked. Like, legitimately, real world shocked, at this response.
wat

how is this a pot calling the kettle black scenario???

Are you saying that I have a weird obsession with micromanaging everything?
 
Old 07-09-2012, 02:32 PM   #941
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PVN, I can't search through all the threads to see how you think society should work without taxes. I promise I won't attack you. Can you just give me the cliffs?
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...alism-1215052/
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:38 PM   #942
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wat

how is this a pot calling the kettle black scenario???

Are you saying that I have a weird obsession with micromanaging everything?
You said that you don't have it worked out in terms of how it would work and that's okay yet the response RIGHT BEFORE THAT was:

"OK, so how do you determine what constitutes a single job?

I have a lot of difference clients, I do different things for all of them.

Are those separate jobs and only one of them is my "real" job?"

You really don't see the contradiction here? And you do that ALL the time. Constantly needling me on how every single thing I propose is going to work in real life. You're one big ball of hypocrisy.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:39 PM   #943
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

Jesus, this thread is awesome. No way any of those Danish dullards could come up with any of this stuff.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:42 PM   #944
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

True, it takes an entitled american to get this butthurt about nonsense.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:46 PM   #945
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You said that you don't have it worked out in terms of how it would work and that's okay yet the response RIGHT BEFORE THAT was:

"OK, so how do you determine what constitutes a single job?

I have a lot of difference clients, I do different things for all of them.

Are those separate jobs and only one of them is my "real" job?"

You really don't see the contradiction here? And you do that ALL the time. Constantly needling me on how every single thing I propose is going to work in real life. You're one big ball of hypocrisy.
No, there's no hypocrisy here. You're the one with a big huge master plan so it's pretty fair to ask how your plan is going to work if you expect anyone to take it seriously.
 
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lol pvn's feelings
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:50 PM   #947
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Goodie:

just to preempt your next breathless email, let's just switch from talking about social order to talking about boats.

Person X proposes that all boats be built with hulls in a certain shape and with a specified engine. Person Y comes along and says I'm not sure, how is that hull shape going to affect the performance of the boat? Then Mr X flips out and says "HOW THE HELL SHOULD I KNOW??? I JUST LIKE THAT SHAPE IT LOOKS COOL AND THAT ENGINE MAKES A REALLY SWEET VRROOOM NOISE."

Then Mr. Y says "why don't we just let boat builders come up with the designs they think will produce the best boats?" and Mr. X is all like "HOLY **** YOU HYPOCRITE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEIR BOATS WILL LOOK LIKE?!?!?"
 
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True, it takes an entitled american to get this butthurt about nonsense.
You haven't read this thread very closely, have you?
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You haven't read this thread very closely, have you?
U mad?
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:58 PM   #950
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No, there's no hypocrisy here. You're the one with a big huge master plan so it's pretty fair to ask how your plan is going to work if you expect anyone to take it seriously.
You don't think a society without taxes is a pretty huge master plan? My lord, dude, do you even think before you post?
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