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Old 06-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #726
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

And yeah,

Yugoslavia (Serbia) - USA 81:78 Indianapolis 2002 World Championship
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:28 PM   #727
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:32 PM   #728
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And yeah,

Yugoslavia (Serbia) - USA 81:78 Indianapolis 2002 World Championship
Congrats on the victory. Id put it on a billboard by the border entry so everyone will know of it when they enter.

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Old 06-21-2012, 01:41 PM   #729
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:13 PM   #730
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Come live in America with a 300k/year job and you will never leave. You would not even visit home.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:33 PM   #731
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I would go and live in the Helmand Province for 300k a year and a Ferrari
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:51 PM   #732
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Come live in America with a 300k/year job and you will never leave. You would not even visit home.
Of course less then 2% of Americans achieve that and even less people outside the us... What about the other 99%? And do you know with some authority that $300k wouldn't afford you an even better living in some other country?

Also- what kind of job are they having to work to make that money? Perhaps $100k a year in one country working x hours a week would have a superior standard of living then someone working y hours a week in the USA where y is greater then x and the cost of living is much higher. 300k in parts of new York and ct will get you a shack and you likely have to spend 3+ hours a day commuting.

$300k in Nebraska is much richer then $300k in NYC... That being said, it's probably a hell of a lot harder to find a $300k job in Nebraska then NYC. At any rate, it's very very hard to find a $300k job anywhere.
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:38 PM   #733
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WTF are you babbling about? This is a genie out of a lamp wish hypothetical...
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:52 PM   #734
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Lemmetellyou, the insurance on that Ferrari in NYC is gonna be balls-out crazy. I recommend taking livery cabs and zip-cars for longer trips.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:02 AM   #735
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Haven't checked this thread in several weeks but after reading through what I had missed, I didn't want it thread to peter out after a long and pointless discussion of beers!

I wanted to bump the post below as no-one has commented on it; it seemed a shame to let it slip through the cracks. In my view, one of the top posts in a thread of several hundred:

[Re: whether the U.S. has been a net positive]:

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This seems like a pretty goofy assertion that could never be reasonably even discussed without determining all the relevent metrics.

I'm sure it would be easy to point to a lot of great things that came out of America while ignoring any harm that its done.

How does one balance things like being a center of much technological development over things like while being settled it wiped out millions of indiginous people? One of the largest polluters in the world? Its political actions have led to the deaths of how many?

I don't know how anyone would measure this to determine if its a net positive.
Deeds cannot be overlooked: to further examine a self-described "great" nation, it is instructive to view the US' use of veto at the U.N.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....ticle30468.htm

Reading the list in its entirety is highly recommended, and truely eye-opening, but to give a few "highlights", the U.S. has blocked efforts requiring nations to:
  • Recognise human rights
  • Reduce nuclear proliferation
  • Stop testing nuclear weapons
  • Reduce chemical and biological weapons
  • Ban the weaponisation of space
  • Reduce environmental destruction
  • Observe international law (the only country in the world to have been condemned by the World Court for committing international terrorism)
  • Take measures against Nazi, Fascist, and neo-Fascist activities
  • Prevent international terrorism, study the underlying political and economic causes of terrorism etc
  • Recognise the rights of children
  • Observe the Geneva Convention
  • etc....

The conclusion, easily made, is that while the United Nations is the force with the greatest potential to make the world a better place, no other nation has worked harder to obstruct its efforts than the US.

Edit: Second conclusion: there is no shortage of people who relentlessly deny and make absurd excuses for the atrocities committed by their government. Thanks to them, the groundwork for future crimes is laid (as Chomsky once said), and the struggle for a more peaceful, more just, and more compassionate world always seems to be out of reach.

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Old 06-28-2012, 12:30 PM   #736
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:03 PM   #737
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

true, we are also one of the most hated countries in the world
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:34 PM   #738
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I hope most people aren't stupid enough to watch Fox, MSNBC, Bill Maher, HBO dramas etc and think they are informed.

I guess I'm a cynic but I think it's sad that a lot of my demographic think that by watching the daily show they can stop thinking for themselves
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:36 PM   #739
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true, we are also one of the most hated countries in the world
As the one of the most influential countries in the world of course we are going to be one of the most loved/hated....who could hate Luxembourg?
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:58 PM   #740
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I think only north korea has more haters than amerika
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:09 PM   #741
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The parts of America with no state taxes are like a fairy tale dream world that I can't believe exist.

So jealous.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:29 PM   #742
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The parts of America with no state taxes are like a fairy tale dream world that I can't believe exist.

So jealous.
What are you talking about here? No state income taxes or just taxes in general?
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:04 PM   #743
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I think only north korea has more haters than amerika
There you go,,, thinking again
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:59 PM   #744
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Re: Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries?

I think your wrong about America being so hated. I think the world hates the current state of were the USA is. You hate each other more than the world hates you.

I think the world hates the fact that you pick and choose the countries to impose your beliefs on. I think George Bush (second one) hurt the USA more. Also the world just couldnt fathom how stupid it was to reelect him.

America was and in some ways is still one of the greatest countries in the world. Just a little messed up with its priorities

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Putting Fox in the group makes no sense at all they should be in a group of its own
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:07 PM   #745
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Putting Fox in the group makes no sense at all they should be in a group of its own
I think Fox and MsNBC are equally disgusting
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Old 06-30-2012, 02:10 AM   #746
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You may be a candidate for the lonely centrist club.
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:31 AM   #747
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There you go,,, thinking again
Yeah I was wrong. Amerika is number 1 , not North Korea
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:10 PM   #748
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You may be a candidate for the lonely centrist club.
lol
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Old 06-30-2012, 12:11 PM   #749
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Yeah I was wrong. Amerika is number 1 , not North Korea
Oh you are adorable
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:13 AM   #750
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This guys would beat them , but unfortunately(luckily for the dream team) war broke the team apart.

lol, are you just bantering or do you really believe this?
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