Nationalism: Do You Actually Think America is Better Than Other Countries? - Page 22 - Politics and Economics

SenorKeeed · 06-12-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake7777

As someone who likes FEP and Young's quite a bit, American microbrews have English beer beat pretty easily. The only country they fall to is Belgium imo.

I doubt many English person who hasn't been in the States for a decent amount of time is qualified to say otherwise, since the vast majority of American beer doesn't get exported.

Yes, for the same reason the vast majority of Iranian cinema doesn't get exported.

Case Closed · 06-12-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mjkidd

I'm guessing most of those Belgian and German beers are high ABV dubble or triples. There's not going to be a lot of room for good English session milds or bitters in the tastes of people who thing that Bells (probably the second most overrated brewery in America) 10% ABV Hopslam (lol) ale is the 19th best beer in the world.

Lol, you mention bells.

Jake7777 · 06-12-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mjkidd

Yes, for the same reason the vast majority of Iranian cinema doesn't get exported.

Yep, exactly the same reason. No differences at all.

JayTeeMe · 06-13-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by miajag

http://beeradvocate.com/lists/popular

Wow, look at all those English beers in the top 100!

(to be fair, I did not check the "warm, flat swill" list)

I now understand why all these disgusting imperial stouts and IPAs get made; they make the people who rate beers go crazy.

metaname2 · 06-13-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mjkidd

Maybe there are. But you have to hunt for them. Whereas in England you can go into a pub and just pick a tap at random and it's going to be a good beer.

Go into a pub in England and order a beer at random and you are pretty likely to end up with Budweiser or Heineken. Shouldn't be surprising in a country where Coors makes the top selling brew. On the upside, they did come up with this stuff:

Money2Burn · 06-13-2012, 09:54 AM

Belgium laughs at the petty squabbles of ants.

DblBarrelJ · 06-13-2012, 10:00 AM

They do have stellar waffles.

bahbahmickey · 06-13-2012, 10:23 AM

I like how the two most recent arguments ITT are about pizza and beer.

I just got back from a trip (last Sunday) in Italy, Croatia, Greece, and Turkey. I tried both pizza and beer (only drank local beer all trip) in all countries except Turkey where I only had one beer. Had a few good beers (not great) and a few decent ones. Every pizza I had on the trip I would rank in the lowest 10 percentile of pizzas I have put in my mouth except one that I had in Assisi, Italy (which would be in the 70-80 percentile).

Yes, I drank too much beer and ate too much pizza on the trip.

Pummi81 · 06-13-2012, 11:48 AM

Surely, as one of the G8-countries, U.S is one (if not the) of the most influential countries in the world.
And obviously U.S is one of the greatest places to live, if you're middle-class+ that is.
However, when it comes to things like social welfare, public health care or public school system, U.S is way behind Western and Northern Europe.

JayTeeMe · 06-13-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey

I like how the two most recent arguments ITT are about pizza and beer.

I just got back from a trip (last Sunday) in Italy, Croatia, Greece, and Turkey. I tried both pizza and beer (only drank local beer all trip) in all countries except Turkey where I only had one beer. Had a few good beers (not great) and a few decent ones. Every pizza I had on the trip I would rank in the lowest 10 percentile of pizzas I have put in my mouth except one that I had in Assisi, Italy (which would be in the 70-80 percentile).

Yes, I drank too much beer and ate too much pizza on the trip.

Nothing says "American" like traveling the world consuming pizza and beer

Money2Burn · 06-13-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

They do have stellar waffles.

[ ] - Waffle
[X] - Delicious

DblBarrelJ · 06-13-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

Nothing says "American" like traveling the world consuming pizza and beer

THIS!!

Add black socks Bermuda shorts and sandals, we've got a WINNAR.

Money2Burn · 06-13-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

THIS!!

Add black socks Bermuda shorts and sandals, we've got a WINNAR.

Something something, PVN, something something.

DblBarrelJ · 06-13-2012, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Something something, PVN, something something.

You're confusing your libertarians again M2B.

Money2Burn · 06-13-2012, 12:33 PM

I read that as crocs, lo siento

DblBarrelJ · 06-13-2012, 12:37 PM

Fitting location IMO

jjshabado · 06-13-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey

I like how the two most recent arguments ITT are about pizza and beer.

I just got back from a trip (last Sunday) in Italy, Croatia, Greece, and Turkey. I tried both pizza and beer (only drank local beer all trip) in all countries except Turkey where I only had one beer. Had a few good beers (not great) and a few decent ones. Every pizza I had on the trip I would rank in the lowest 10 percentile of pizzas I have put in my mouth except one that I had in Assisi, Italy (which would be in the 70-80 percentile).

Yes, I drank too much beer and ate too much pizza on the trip.

Best pizza I've ever had was in Naples, Italy.

And I'm wondering why you kept eating what you thought was bad pizza.

tomdemaine · 06-13-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

Best pizza I've ever had was in Naples, Italy.

And I'm wondering why you kept eating what you thought was bad pizza.

well it follows like this

America #1 **** yeah so if in these weird foreign places even their American food is terrible how bad must their local dishes be?

AlexM · 06-13-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andz

And pizza is an amerikan food

Pretty much, yes. The basic idea may not have originated here, but the idea of mix and match toppings seems to have been popularized here, which is what modern pizza is really all about. To say that modern pizza isn't American is like saying all pasta dishes are Chinese.

Jake7777 · 06-13-2012, 01:27 PM

Chinese food in the form that it's consumed in the western world is also American

AlexM · 06-13-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pummi81

However, when it comes to things like social welfare, public health care or public school system, U.S is way behind Western and Northern Europe.

Assuming you believe those are good things.

kurto · 06-13-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

What? Huge goal post shift.

Anyone that thinks the US hasn't been a net positive on the world is as delusional as people who think the US is far and away the best country.

And I don't think there are many (any?) people claiming the US hasn't been a net positive ITT.

This seems like a pretty goofy assertion that could never be reasonably even discussed without determining all the relevent metrics.

I'm sure it would be easy to point to a lot of great things that came out of America while ignoring any harm that its done.

How does one balance things like being a center of much technological development over things like while being settled it wiped out millions of indiginous people? One of the largest polluters in the world? Its political actions have led to the deaths of how many?

I don't know how anyone would measure this to determine if its a net positive.

kurto · 06-13-2012, 02:04 PM

My apologies for the above. I wrote it and posted it before I knew it would change to a thread on the finer appreciation of beer and deep-fried-bacon.

UthersGhost · 06-13-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DblBarrelJ

Tom,
I've desired my whole life for someone to explain Cricket to me.

I've read wiki articles, various stuff online, still have no clue.

An easy Guide To cricket:

There are two teams in cricket.

One team is IN and one team is OUT.
The team that is OUT try to get the team that is IN, OUT.
The team that is IN try to stop the team that is OUT getting them, (the team that is in), OUT.

When the team that is OUT get the team that is IN, OUT, the team that was OUT is now the team that is IN and the team that was IN is now the team that is OUT.

Then, the team that was IN but is now the team that is OUT try to get the team that was OUT but is now the team that is IN, OUT.
And the team that was OUT but is now the team that is IN try to stop the team that was IN but is now the team that is OUT from getting them, (the team that is IN), OUT.

And they try to do this before rain stops play.

I hope this helps.

There Is A Light · 06-13-2012, 02:48 PM

Can't put it better than this:

Nationalism Is Stupid