Please proceed, governor.

I think baseball games outdoors and the like might be an OK thing to do but it's just common sense wisdom to make sure some well-armed people sit out and stand guard to watch your back. There's alot of crazy people with guns out there, and until the government gets their act together on mental health issues, you're at their mercy.

He's a real piece of ****. You would think he would have some type of empathy, but nope, only cares about that NRA money. **** that guy with the biggest moose cock in the world.

my point was that there is not, and never really was, a "right to privacy" like your bags or whatever in commercial spaces - you don't want to be searched, don't enter

the first amendment applies to government action; so does the fourth

you are spinning this into a "super-militarized atmosphere of cops [at every hotel]", which is why I described this tack as "paranoid"

QED

Smart guns have already been designed. NRA vehemently opposes them due to an obscure New Jersey law that mandates all guns sold in NJ have smart technology if they are sold literally anywhere else in the country.

Yes. I understand. The point is I understand the entirely private, not-Constitutionally protected social norm that I can check into a hotel without a security screening, that I can go to a sportsball game or a concert without it looking like I'm entering a military base.

YOU are pointing out there's no right-to-privacy to normalize these bad compromises and solutions, to note that, well, hey, if you really want these attacks to stop, it's up to the heros in law enforcement and surveillance and increasing vigilance and whatever the **** else. No one has a right to go to a concert! No one has the right to check into a hotel without their luggage searched! No one has a right to go to an outdoor event without a big militarized police presence scanning the area for maniacs with high powered fire arms! That is all obvious; you point it out to note those could be acceptable, legal compromises and solutions to the problem of violent rampages committed with guns.

How about instead we ban access to guns?

Related:

Las Vegas Massacre Raises Questions About Hotel Security

The massacre has left some people questioning how the suspect was able to get so many guns INTO THE HOTEL has to be like one of the most incredible questions ever asked. Think of all the premises baked into that ****ing question. What a world. 2017 America is the story of how people ask themselves with a straight face not how someone could acquire a dozen powerful semi automatic rifles that shoot 400 rounds a minute but how he got them indoors past the ever watchful eye of the bell hop.

Also now URBAN PLANNING is on the table, ready to sacrifice at the altar of guns. Did we REALLY need all these tall buildings? Someone might fire off weapons from up there!

Side note: gun control does not make an appearance in this article

It's like an ironic ACist dystopia where everyone chooses the private space with the least freedom.

How is calling me "special ed" not a personal attack?

I am neither libertarian nor reactionary. I am a huge advocate for social assistance, homosexual rights, penal reform, etc. I endorse the BLM movement and an inviting immigration policy.

What ****ing face time? I haven't blasted Leftism long and hard enough to earn the ability to point out when the Right actually makes a good point?

"nazi sympathizer" - quote or ban, plz

Just seems crazy that we have these "hotels" where any nutjob can rent a room and turn it into a sniper nest. Time for urban planners to rethink that sort of thing in light of the heavily-armed lunatics we have running around.

"Quote or ban plz" Come on, man, you know that's not true, I know that's not true. You even name the issues in a weird libertarian way!

LOL that you misinterpreted this so badly is hilarious. You've only blasted "leftism". Ever. You never ****ing shut up about all the good points the right makes. The face time would've been blasting the right.

The Chris Rock joke about nightclubs with metal detectors is going to be a right wing argument to ban security checkpoints.

Finland defended against Russia pretty well.

How'd ISIS do? How about the American colonies vs. Britain?

Lots of armed peoples lose conflicts. What is your point?

ISIS is getting totally wrecked on all fronts. The colonists had the french army and navy backing them otherwise they would've gotten totally wrecked also.

No, Fly - you called me "special ed". That's a personal attack.

You said I'm a nazi sympathizer on the basis that I said "punching a nazi doesn't help anything". Cite me actually sympathizing with nazi's, please.


I argued in P7 and in BFI in favor of social assistance. I have argued in POG for social assistance, homosexual rights, etc. I have argued on this board for BLM.

ISIS is just about ****ed. America would have gotten bent without the French.

there wouldn't have been an opportunity for outside assistance without the initial ability to resist

Which outside agency are you holding out for for when the US government goes tyrannical? Martian assistance?

maybe a state organization, maybe canada, maybe europe

maybe even china, idk


a wedge in the door still has massive utility, even if it is not perfect

If all you need is a wedge in the door, then you can achieve that via non-violent direct action.

Yeah, china takes a strong stand against tyranny . Lol at Europe getting involved, we'd get instantly destroyed. So Canada? I'm a fan of the Mounties but I'm not sure they're quite ready to take on the US government.

I'd like to see, as preconditions for minimal gun ownership:

(1) initial criminal background check
(2) initial and continuing periodic mental health certification
(3) gun safety certification

More advanced gun ownership should be conditioned minimally upon time of compliance with above plus additional safety/training certification.

The "wedge" is not in a vacuum. It is costing you tens of thousands of lives a year. Does the utility outweigh that?

Imagine being the guy assuming that all that stands between you and the tyrannical impulses of the American government are your handgun and the People's Republic of China.

So if it weren't for the checkpoints the concert goers would have their thang on them and could have fought back?

So the mythical ability to protect against a tyrannical government which requires outside support (which would have to get past the best navy, army, and air force the world has ever known) and defections from within is worth hundreds of thousands of real lives? I don't see it. Limit people to bolt action hunting rifles, revolvers and single shot shotguns, why isn't that enough?