How has the 2A ever "safeguarded" government overreach?

As for children:


If you hide your gun from your kids, your kids will need to discover them for themselves.

Like for drugs and sex - this is a terrible approach.


Gun safety should be universally taught in schools, as should general martial self-defense.



Any student of history should be well aware of the fragility of domestic peace.

Are we so secure today? People on this forum love to rail about the fascist cops killing indiscriminately - and the same people turn around and say "what do you need guns for?" Reminds me of the people who touted "blue lives matter" while waiving their NRA/2A banners. It's all so much ideological packaging, cultural signaling.

The people that own most of the guns (supposedly to protect themselves from the govt) seemingly never met a government jackboot that they didn't have an overwhelming desire to lick.

Uh, no.

I can't cite a specific example.

this is our concern, dude

Then perhaps you need to revaluate your premise.

here's something:

from "Bloody Kansas":

Owning firearms does nothing to deter police brutality. If anything it makes it worse by being used as a justification to up-arm the police departments because "we can't have worse guns than the public does."

LMAO

It was not an empirical claim, kerowo.

the public is not well organized

You want to buy a gun, you need to take a safety course.
lol no. How many subjects do schools need to teach? If we remove a lot of these guns, it alleviates a lot of the problems. If there are fewer guns, cops aren't going to be as nervous that everyone they interact with is armed.

Oh I'm definitely concerned about it.

I dunno, you could ask the 56 Million world-wide genocide victims from 1915-1980 who were basically killed by their own governments.

Wait, you can't ask them, they're dead!

So how in the hell can they use their guns to prevent government overreach?

Hammer -

Yes, gun owners should be required to take safety courses, but that's not enough. Their children should as well.

Schools already have a "physical education" period. Also the school day is too short and the workload is focused way too much on recall and too little on experiential learning, but that's for another thread.


Cops don't need to see a gun before they start blasting these days.

by organizing!

I said "necessary but not sufficient"

Why would they know the answer even if you could ask them?

I don't understand why it would have been a good idea in the horse-and-buggy days but now that we have accomplished industrial slaughter it's no longer important.

LOL

Owning a gun is a choice. I don't own a gun, why should I take a gun safety course? My friends don't own guns, why should their kids have to take a class? If you are going to own a gun, it is on you to keep yourself and your family safe.
Teach self defense during PE, fine. Right. Because they are in fear that a gun is present even when there isn't.

Police fear that wannabe Wild Bill will try to outdraw them.

I'm actually advocating for more gun control here, just in a way that acknowledges the utility of guns and the reality that they probably will not just "go away".



You should want your kid to know gun safety, even if you don't own a gun, because one day your kid may be over at a friend's house checking out that kid's dad's whatever.

When the 2nd amendment was written, we had just fought a monarchy to become independent. We had no representation in that government, but we do now. Change is done by voting, not violent action.

Because giving members of the general public enough fire power to compete with current government forces is exactly how you get incidents like the one in Las Vegas, or Orlando, etc.