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Old 11-25-2012, 07:19 PM   #126
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Re: From my cold, dead, hands!

Canada's crime rate is exponentially to the Qth degree lower than United States.

You guys don't need your guns.

But then again, The Walking Dead wouldn't be possible without all the guns...
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:20 PM   #127
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if our crime rate is higher than isn't that more of a reason for me to need a gun
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:24 PM   #128
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/monthly gun tangent
Someone clearly didnt read the story behind Battle of Thermopylae including the numbers that were there, understand the lessons of the engagement, or even just watch the end of the film 300.

Why do so many jpgs you post have zero accuracy DBJ, is this selection bias of the intelligence of the groups you are joining on facebook or is this selection bias that you only post the dumbest ones?
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:38 PM   #129
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Boy this truly is a scripted liberal debate. Now we've transitioned from "You guys are racists who want to "GUN DOWN THA BLACK UTES!" to "You guys are dumb".

What's next, a "Yo Momma" joke?
What do you want us to do? Pretend guns nuts are just like the anti-global warming crowd or the pro-vaccine crowd? You (or some other gun guy here?) said that dumb arguments that exaggerate/make up the threat of the federal government taking away peoples guns are good to rile up the base. While that's the type of argument I'd expect from a gun nut, it also presupposes that your target audience is idiots, so there isn't any real disagreement.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:46 PM   #130
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if you legit value the right to own a gun over your life then you are an idiot
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:58 PM   #131
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There is a lot of irony over dying for a weapon you claim you own to defend yourself with.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:59 PM   #132
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I predict DB will make the "guys, I wuz just trolling lol" play ITT.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:08 PM   #133
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If the guns rights advocates don't want people lumping them in with fringe nuts, maybe the ones talking about killing federal agents should step away from the thread.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:31 PM   #134
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I am wayyyyyyyy on the peacefull end of the gun owner spectrum and if someone were to come to my home attempting to violate my natural rights I will kill them or die trying. Now extrapolate that out to crazy bubbas and people who believe that Obomba is the anti-christ and you have a civil war.
Pretty sure the statement in the first sentence places your firmly among the crazy bubbas you describe in the second sentence.
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Old 11-25-2012, 08:38 PM   #135
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If the guns rights advocates don't want people lumping them in with fringe nuts, maybe the ones talking about killing federal agents should step away from the thread.
From the other thread:

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No seriously, what's better weapon: 9 milli with hollow points for stopping power, or say...a .357 magnum?

Consider price and ...idk, vest penetration in your answer.
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depends on the powder charge. Generally .357 will have more penetration. The bullet in 9 or .357 is the same bullet.

+P+ 9mm will have more penetration than standard .357 etc etc. Hollow points expand and are dependent on design and other factors like clothing or intermediate barriers as to how well they do their job.

As a generalization .357Sig will penetrate glass, vests, or other barriers better than 9mm.

Pure "stopping power" would be 10mm, 44mag, 45, .40S&W probably in that order and again generalizing



http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_De..._FAQ/index.htm
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Discussing how well various types of guns/ammo penetrate vests seems really creepy.
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rjoe no one cares

anyone have any tips for using gunbroker? safe to use i hope?
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discussing the effects of ballistics on targets can be a little "creepy" or morbid yes. But its a part of what the tool does, and its part of understanding how they work etc. Have you ever looked at crash data for cars or other information about the dangers of a device? Its always a little creepy talking about death or injury and humans tend to try and avoid the subject.

Guns are fun but they are also deadly serious.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:05 PM   #136
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Criminals wear body armor too.

The anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric in this thread, where have I read it before?
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:19 PM   #137
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Someone clearly didnt read the story behind Battle of Thermopylae including the numbers that were there, understand the lessons of the engagement, or even just watch the end of the film 300.

Why do so many jpgs you post have zero accuracy DBJ, is this selection bias of the intelligence of the groups you are joining on facebook or is this selection bias that you only post the dumbest ones?
I scale them based on the perceived intelligence of the viewer.

In all seriousness, you must have noticed my own statements typically go against the propaganda I post.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:21 PM   #138
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From the other thread:
ITT understanding basic handgun ballistics makes one a sociopath.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:23 PM   #139
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It's more about the fantasizing about having an opportunity to shoot someone with a vest on (wonder who usually wears those??) that makes it a bit creepy.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:15 PM   #140
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It's more about the fantasizing about having an opportunity to shoot someone with a vest on (wonder who usually wears those??) that makes it a bit creepy.
Your the one that brought up shooting through vests
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:20 PM   #141
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Your the one that brought up shooting through vests
The best response you have is to blatantly lie? GJGE
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:29 PM   #142
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The best response you have is to blatantly lie? GJGE
Okay rjoe, when talking about penetrating properties of a bullet what commonly known reference would you use?
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:33 PM   #143
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Ballistics gel LDO

I just realized Lirva's new account was banned already so this convo won't be nearly as fun
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:37 PM   #144
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I predict DB will make the "guys, I wuz just trolling lol" play ITT.
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In all seriousness, you must have noticed my own statements typically go against the propaganda I post.
Nailed it!
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:45 PM   #145
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That's some pretty low hanging fruit Trolly, I wouldn't celebrate too much :P
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:57 PM   #146
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Ballistics gel LDO

I just realized Lirva's new account was banned already so this convo won't be nearly as fun
Umm...Okay, so what does bullet x will penetrate 6 inches into ballistics gel mean in practical terms, cause I don't have a clue? We can play the same game with plate steel, pine bark, pillow cases, and telephone books. It sounds cool to say bullet x will penetrate 1/4 inch plate steel, but I still don't know what that really means.

I do have a pretty good idea what bullet x will penetrate type II body armor from a range of 10 ft means. I know that because type II body armor has very specific and easily found specs for what it will protect against. Hence, body armor penetration makes for a convenient and easily understood reference. Sorry if it's "creepy", but you really should stop being so easily bothered by reasonable conversation.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:58 PM   #147
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I only said ballistics gel because that's what Neblis used in his reply. I don't really care what you use as a metric since it won't mean much to me either way. While you may know what all that stuff means I don't :P
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:18 PM   #148
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Nailed it!
I'm pretty sure I didn't say what you think I'd said there.
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:43 PM   #149
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LirvA had a new account already? I find that funny since he totally swore he was done with 2+2 in his ATF thread
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Old 11-25-2012, 11:45 PM   #150
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wtf did u meanies do to lirva?
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