I don't think the country is willing to trade its soul for the perception of a possible bit more safety

I assume the answer you were implying at here is that it wouldn't.

Which, based off your posts itt, would be the crux of the issue for me.

There's your problem.

jesus ****, dude, what else are we supposed to do, hold hands and cry while singing kumbaya?

a tragedy happened to a bunch of people none of us knew

Both sides had large entities backing their resistance forces. I don't think there is any evidence that decentralized gun ownership can stand up to an invading government.

human garbage armed to the nines with GUNS

That's a huge problem.

Gun violence problem = give more people more guns

Obesity problem = give fat people more food

drug problem = give addicts more drugs

Alcohol problem . . . . .

On preventing school violence

Col. David Grossman has written and spoken extensively on this subject

Yeah I don't know. I can sympathize with the feelings of helplessness that the hoplophobes ITT are having actually. I suppose its a natural reaction. but ambulance chasing is vile to me genrally and this is just awful.

Wooo doggie lookie here. A librul wanting us to spend more money on cops for the schools.

nice snip.. or did you not see my immediate edit to my dumb hyperbole?

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All ******ation aside, the best short term goal for preventing/deterring school shootings is to have police officers at schools.

Republicans filibustering the funds in 3.....2.....

How old is Tsao? 60? He mustn't remember High School or the earlier years. I would not want 90% of teachers with a swiss army knife, never mind a handgun. Amazing posting, really.

The problem isn't the number of guns or just the mentally ill state of the perpetrator. Problems, but these exist in a lot of places in the world. I'm not sure if there are more mass non civilian (non gang/combat) shootings in the US then the rest of the world combined, but it seems close enough that its ridiculous. The number of mentally ill/guns in the US will be the same as Canada and quite a few number of other countries. Why is there a huge discrepancy in the number of mass shootings in the US and every other first world country? And is this acceptable? Is this just unfortunate that the number of mass shootings is seemingly increasing, or is this a trend? I can't remember which book it was, maybe Blink or something that said these happen in clusters as the kind of people who perpetrate these often like the attention/see one on the news and then decide to do it themselves.

So Low Key, if there are not more crazy people in the US, why do more crazy people in the US commit mass shootings then literally everywhere else? Why do the crazies of America more often decide they want to kill multiple people and often themselves?

Well, I knew it was hyperbole, but no I didn't see the edit. You're messed up, dude, but I don't actually think you're a monster

logic and reason problem= argue in favor of guncontrol

But WAIT

What if.. instead of police officers, who we all know are great and amazing and wonderful but overpaid and unions are bad or whatever, we used military personnel, which are nearly as holy as the pope having buttsecks with jesus in the eyes of republicans? (unless it comes to helping them get jobs when they come back home... wait... GODDAMNIT!)

Pretty much. As of now, there are more handguns floating about in the U.S., than their are human beings in the U.S.

There aren't really any reasonable arguments as to why an individual, who is not a licensed gun dealer (and therefore, performing background checks, and subject to licensing procedures beyond that for just owning a gun), NEEDS to be able to buy more than 12 guns a year, every single year.

But yeah ZOMG collectors. Handungs ain't baseball cards.

OK cool... yeah that was bad phrasing. I am such a ball of furious and sickened by this thing that I'm worse than usual about thinking before I speak.

Right, and you believe superior technology can't be defeated.

1)stake out strong, condescending opinion on every topic that comes up, be expert on everything

2)make fun of people who disagree and know 1000000x more than you about the subject

3)profit

i am not a psychologist

and you haven't really proven anything about the number of crazies in this country

though I agree that ease of access to guns for crazies is a problem

but also think we should do something about the crazies/conditions that breed the crazies

I could probably get behind something on this subject, but if a person likes to collect hand guns, do you think they keep them scattered around their front lawn to make it easier for them to be stolen? Or do you think they might try to keep their valuables safe somewhere?

If you can dig up any info on how many guns the avg gun collector loses/has stolen/etc, maybe this could go somewhere.

You just articulated the view of every libertarian. Well done.

there may be some fringe right-wingers and hypochondriac left-wingers who are down with torture, but I don't think the vast majority of americans are keen on it as something their local or federal gov't does to punish people

and i've been a registered libertarian for about a decade or so, so i guess it's good that i can articulate my own views..?