If it's so easy to build a bomb, why aren't more people using them to kill people? Buying a weapon is so much easier than making your own. That's why guns are the #1 weapon of choice for spree killers.

If McVeigh had access to a nuke, do you think he would have used that?

Idk what they think. You asked me to put myself in their shoes. The only thing I can come up with is that people feel safer with more laws restricting things that might hurt them.

My view: There's no one that has my personal safety at the top of their list like I do, you know, self-preservation and all.

33BB- You can't even imagine what it's like to not be afraid, but let me tell you, it's pretty ****ing sweet. We also don't need to ask the guy at Publix for help when we want to buy something on the top shelf!

That's more of a psychology question, I am not a psychologist.

Perhaps they get some sort of satisfaction from watching people die.

If he had enough time to get away from the subsequent last, yes, I do.

If I lived in a country that bad, I might own a gun for self-defense as well. Fortunately, I live in the US where the odds of being attacked by a gang member or a drug user are very small. So small that I don't feel the need to arm myself.

You know what they say, "location, location, location". I imagine you would own a gun for self defense if you lived in, commuted through, or worked in an area with high propensity for drug and gang violence?

I haven't been to KC in a few years, but I do not recall ever feeling unsafe there. Unless things have changed, I understand your apprehension on owing a gun for self defense. But again, that is YOUR choice, and I would never impart my belief system on you through government intervention.

No, it's not a psychology question, it's a technical and practical question. He's saying that it isn't so easy for the average nut to build a bomb. No psychology degree required.

I already explained you can legally buy explosives, you're not building anything.

That's it for the pro-gun slaughter today gentlemen (and Huehuecoyotl since I am still not sure), I am off to go enjoy the beach. Don't do anything I wouldn't do.

Lol oh lawd.

Australia instituted strict gun control measures after a horrific mass shooting in a tourist area in 1996, and gun deaths plummeted dramatically. Sorry but gun control works.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ol-saves-lives

The live one leaves the table, game breaks up.

Sure there's some psychology involved, but it's probably more based on logistics.

Guns - Easy access and easy to use with minimal training.
Bombs - Hard to fabricate and implement.


Right, because he wanted to maximize damage with the tools at his disposal. He had the knowledge to build a truck bomb and and time to implement a plan. He didn't use a nuke because he didn't have access to plutonium or the knowledge to build a bomb with it.

Adam Lanza used guns because it's what he had access to. If his mom was a samurai sword collector, he probably would have went to the school with a katana.

I wonder, does he swim with his gun? Or does he leave it on the beach?

My house has been broken into several times, but never while I was there. A gun wouldn't have prevented any of the robberies. As for gang or drug violence, what do you think is going to happen? You're driving through a bad neighborhood when all of a sudden a bunch of thugs stop you with guns and demand you to get out of the car? First of all, this is so exceedingly rare as to not even consider it ever happening. And second, are you going to get in a gunfight to keep your car?

You seem to think that people are willing to kill you for no reason, but this just isn't the case. They might want to rob you, but is your wallet worth getting into a possibly fatal gunfight over?

Do the explosives (binary you say) just go off on their own? Did McVeigh just park a truck full of fertilizer and tell it to count to 100 and then explode?
Well, we're all going to live our lives without a gun strapped to our hips, so...

Too late. I just went off to lunch without arming myself.

Jesus, some nutty gun nuts in this thread! Or maybe America is a lot more scary than I have been led to believe?
I mean, who seriously braces themselves for a home invasion resulting in kidnappings? May as well build a shield over your house to reflect meteorite strikes! Burglars will hope to get away without interacting with home owners and will probably be as scared as you are when detected.

I don't really have an opinion in favor of gun or against them but I was thinking about home defense and was wondering how much a safe room costs. I imagine that with an alarm of some sort alerting police would be optimal in terms of safety vs risk to your family. I would imagine a shotgun or handgun would cost way less but if you are that worried about your families safety can you put a price on it.

A good alarm system would be a strong play. If you feel the need to go down the shotgun or handgun route, make sure you take a training course and get VERY familiar with what you buy before you buy it. Not just you but your wife/gf our who ever will have access to it.

Don't just go down to your nearest gun shop and buy some $450 Beretta because it should "do the job" and stash it in your nightstand beside your bed. Or you could end up in a more dangerous situation than before.

Also, a good training course should teach you how to safely store and maintain whatever it is that your buying. If not, your dealing with the wrong people.

Not a big fan of guns myself but come on this is rather naive... "just leave the burglars alone, they're more scared of you than you are of them!"

Wrong.

The burglar that saw me was more scared of me than I was of him.

LOL I'm assuming you were armed?

If so I'm curious how it actually played out. Did you just hear him in the middle of the night and have your gun in a nightstand?

Building explosives requires a lot of effort, knowledge and has a high chance of getting caught. Also killing people with explosives isn't that easy. Killing them with an easy to grab gun is a lot easier.

BTW are you guys living in some kind of dystopian wasteland as well known millionaires? Safe houses, not putting price on your family etc. talk. If I built one, there would be bigger chance of someone getting trapped there with a medical condition and dying than it actually did any good.

I think your risk assessment and valuation is completely bonkers.

33 you are doing it wrong, you don't need to justify why you own guns. You enjoy them and you can, that's all you need to say. Grabbers, I'm always glad to see this thread bumped. You lost, time to get over it.