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Originally Posted by 13ball
Why are people seriously discussing bills217 torture fantasies?
Because it would be more effective than creating more black markets?
I don't personally support any such thing. What I am trying to figure out is why a liberal wouldn't. So far the answer i've received is: they empathize with the perpetrators. That marks a difference from my views. I don't, at all.
Bills217: doesn't support giving government the power to torture people, but, eh, you guys are already pretty much there, so what gives?
Liberals: no objection to giving governments nearly unlimited powers to implement ineffective solutions, but object to potentially effective solutions because they empathize with the perpetrators of the worst crimes imaginable.