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Nevermind, I have gotton 2 more pms about this being a place where anti gun guys come to "circle jerk" with each other so I guess I wont get the any good responses. I'll leave you guys alone.

Are pro gunners now keeping watch on who enters this thread to warn each other to stay away?

You guys are so awesome.

07-18-2013 , 08:36 AM

#12503

Pilkain

old hand

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The "gun nuts" do not feel the need to keep winning the argument. Constitutionally guaranteed right, upheld by the Supreme Court, practiced all over the USA since its inception.

A bunch of people posting insults on 2+2 isn't going to change that and neither is any elected official in the USA.

In closing, we are sorry you guys are all butthurt that gun ownership is a right we will not give up. Gtfoverit.

07-18-2013 , 09:01 AM

#12504

mucksandgravs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

Yea, but it will make them feel better about themselves

07-18-2013 , 10:46 AM

#12505

spanktehbadwookie

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Gun extremists do win the 'make fallacious arguments' game. Also pretty good at calling people variations of the word stupid and retreating into sand castles of self-declared superiority at first sight of a gun prohibitionist's opinion.

07-18-2013 , 10:48 AM

#12506

champstone

banned

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,372

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greeksquared

Average yearly homicides in Chicago
1990-1994: 901
2008-2012: 470

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago

they must having quit including cops killings since 2008.

07-18-2013 , 10:49 AM

#12507

DebtVulture

journeyman

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 321

Not that I would listen to Joe Biden, but getting arrested for shooting a gun in the air to ward off an intruder:

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/17/ma...ooting-charge/

Something is seriously wrong. Maybe next time he should just lay down so guy can rob his house or kill him and his family?

07-18-2013 , 10:53 AM

#12508

Pilkain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Extremists? We are the definition of mainstream. I love how you try to frame it. Always has been and always will be legal. Extremists are the one trying to take away constitutionally guaranteed rights.

07-18-2013 , 10:58 AM

#12509

champstone

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DebtVulture

I have a little news for everyone, when you call the police there job is to arrest you or at least try to . if your choking, drowning ,on fire , or have your brother has just been murdered they will run your id search your house and try and find any and everything to arrest you on. Matters not if your are a victum , to them it is a chance to arrest you.

07-18-2013 , 11:01 AM

#12510

rjoefish

Got Out the Vote

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31,086

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

At least you've given up all pretense of being for stricter gun control.

07-18-2013 , 11:18 AM

#12511

spanktehbadwookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

Extremist is the perfect frame for the NRA and the like. Has not always been and does not always have to be.

Extremists use an abridged version of a constitutional right and tend to rely on extra-constitutional footnotes to support their interpretations.

"We are the definition of mainstream" is one of those self-declared superiorities I was mentioning. I'm not moved by appeals to popularity much at all, even when not dubious.

07-18-2013 , 11:21 AM

#12512

mucksandgravs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

Yawn

07-18-2013 , 11:29 AM

#12513

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rjoefish

Thanks, Obama.

2008-2012: that's when Obama was away from the city. Is Obama responsible for murders in Chicago?

/drudgery

07-18-2013 , 04:14 PM

#12514

All-In Flynn

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Yo, Pilkain, mucksandgrav - the guy who shows up specifically to say that he doesn't feel the need to keep winning the argument is de facto refuting his own claim. You get that, right?

07-19-2013 , 09:57 AM

#12515

Ineedaride2

Politics Court Jester

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Relevant to this thread:

07-19-2013 , 01:29 PM

#12516

Sommerset

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

The "gun nuts" do not feel the need to keep winning the argument. Constitutionally guaranteed right, upheld by the Supreme Court, practiced all over the USA since its inception.

A bunch of people posting insults on 2+2 isn't going to change that and neither is any elected official in the USA.

In closing, we are sorry you guys are all butthurt that gun ownership is a right we will not give up. Gtfoverit.

LOL. Whatever you need to tell yourself, I guess.

07-19-2013 , 03:35 PM

#12517

Pilkain

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http://www.wral.com/robber-killed-du...sion/12680798/

07-19-2013 , 07:46 PM

#12518

JimHammer

Digg'n the gifs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

http://www.wral.com/robber-killed-du...sion/12680798/

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...ter-accidental

http://www.bnd.com/2013/07/17/269725...-shooting.html

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...ng-friend.html

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/buildin...rren-city-hall

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3567531.html

07-19-2013 , 08:06 PM

#12519

formula72

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JimHammer

lol...this proves nobody can be responsible.

07-20-2013 , 03:28 AM

#12520

archimedes11

adept

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Quote:

Originally Posted by formula72

lol...this proves nobody can be responsible.

you're right, those incidents are all due to people being irresponsible. But it's also true that all the people involved in those incidents would still be alive if guns had not been involved. but because gun-lovers have a kill-or-be-killed mentality, they fight tooth and nail to defend some ancient, out-dated, and irrational part of the constitution that gives them the right to carry weapons, all while missing the bigger picture.

And btw, George Zimmerman was irresponsible with his gun too, and it doesn't even matter because Florida law is so ****ed up.

07-20-2013 , 07:27 PM

#12521

formula72

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Quote:

Originally Posted by archimedes11

You do understand that a lot of those incidents are caused by guns that can never be illegal no matter what happens? Do you think that people with clean backgrounds and firearms training should be able not own a .38 revolver?

I laugh when gun nuts tell me that they should arm teachers in schools. Its absolutely insane. But if believe yes in the previous question, which you may not, then yes your just as insane as the nuts on the otherside.

07-21-2013 , 05:13 AM

#12522

DudeImBetter

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Why do some people believe "The Right To Bear Arms" is like the only Amendment that should remain "pure" and free of regulation?

They probably think Thomas Jefferson would have wanted my 18 year old nephew to be allowed to strap an M61 Vulcan to his old Jeep Cherokee...you know, for protection. It's essentially the same thing as a Blunderbus or musket.

07-21-2013 , 05:22 AM

#12523

DudeImBetter

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Quote:

Originally Posted by formula72

I laugh when gun nuts tell me that they should arm teachers in schools. .

It's highly unlikely that these folks had the distinct pleasure of being educated by our nation's stellar public school teachers. Had they gotten this experience they'd realize the majority straight dislike kids, nevermind care enough to teach well, and would likely think twice about arming them before setting them loose in rooms full of children.

BTW: This concept of strapping our nation's teachers to prevent school shootings ranks high on my list of halfwit conservative solutions to our country's problems.

07-21-2013 , 05:29 AM

#12524

DudeImBetter

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07-21-2013 , 11:13 AM

#12525

JimHammer

Digg'n the gifs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by formula72

I'm all for training and education, but it's not required now to own a gun.

Problem is, any legislation to require people to be trained on firearm safety would be looked at as a first step to an all out gun ban by gun nuts.

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