Clearly if Obama had been tapping his internet harder he could have stopped this.

I grew up with a gf who lived in Prattville. Seems about right

Let's hold every last one of these bastards responsible.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...hecks-proposal

Uh they are already required right?

No, not always.

FFL dealers have to run the checks but 'private sellers' don't, even when at an event where they run booths next to each other.

so if I buy from a private buyer at a gun show, I don't have to futz around with getting my license address changed?

Depends on the state it would seem.

33/50 chance ain't bad

The states that go out of their way to make it as easy as possible for gun nuts to get AKs without any background check whatsoever make it really really hard for the sensible states to protect themselves as well.

bwamp

Mental illness seems to be the common denominator in all of these shootings. Any new legislation should address that problem in detail.

Residents of sensible states are not ignorant enough to believe that you can buy an ak legally.

Absolutely agree. We need massive additional funding for mental health programs in every state and a commission to address and act on the problem of these mentally ill people being treated as criminals throughout their lives. The prisons have been filling with the mentally ill for years, they need to be treated separately. And they need to have a chance to get treatment before they commit some crime that lands them in prison for years or life.

You're joking right? You can buy them online, you can even have them shipped to California with a slight modification to make them legal in that state. If you purchase them privately rather than from a dealer you need not be background checked in almost every single state of the union.

All,

We need to be courageous and discuss mental illness even though the anti-gun industry, which is making money hand over fist, want to ignore mental illness entirely.

helpfully,
goofball

Itt the definition of an assault rifle must be kept very precise, right down to the differences between AR15s and AK47s within the context of mass shootings by an individual against a group of unarmed people. While the definition of "mental illness" needs no specificity at all.

When it is done intentionally to try to scare people into advocating a particular position yes it is important. What clarification do you need on the mental illness point?

The gun control lobby has done a very good job of ignoring it as well. When Jared Loughner shot Gabriel Giffords did he have an assault rifle or an extended magazine? Would any legislation proposed by the gun control lobby have stopped that shooting? He was however mentally ill. As was the shooter in Aurora, VA Tech, and Sandy Hook. Interesting that the gun control lobby is focused on the weapons used in some of those events, but not the common denominator in all four.

AK47s are automatic rifles. They are illegal to own in the USA.

I'm sure then that you support stronger background checks on all gun sales so we can check for mental illness.

Suzzer, don't bother. It's been explained to him over and over that mental health initiatives are a part of the solution but every week or so he circles back to the same nonsense.

Man, I want nothing more than the government to have a big list of people who have ever dealt with some mental health issue.

What if its just for the purpose of identification?

I agree wholeheartedly.

Err, yes, he had an extended magazine and was stopped because he had to reload after emptying those 30 rounds into his victims.

Plus, what is the solution here, if you do not have solid background checks in place what mental health laws should be getting passed exactly? Are the mentally ill being targeted for extra treatment or to stop them getting guns, cos the first is really really costly and bumps into numerous civil liberty issues whereas the second is practically free and should be part of the first regardless.

Given the anti gun lobby wont pass a law that ikes claims would do nothing what law is going to get passed exactly? Do you think this congress is up for extending some more taxes to pay for mental healthcare for example?