From my cold, dead. hands! Except in Detroit and Chicago - Page 487 - Politics and Economics

Two Plus Two Forums Other Topics Politics

From my cold, dead. hands! Except in Detroit and Chicago

...

Page 487 of 1110

First

287 387 437 467 477 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 497 507 537 587 687 987

Last

Page 487 of 1110

First

287 387 437 467 477 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 497 507 537 587 687 987

Last

05-10-2013 , 01:07 PM

#12151

Benholio

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,292

Try as you might, nobody here has come close to presenting a valid slippery slope argument against voting for the background check bill.

05-10-2013 , 02:11 PM

#12152

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benholio

Try as you might, nobody here has come close to presenting a valid slippery slope argument against voting for the background check bill.

Hilarious. The slippery slope argument is what is responsible for the failure of the enhanced background check bill. You had it backwards.

05-10-2013 , 02:24 PM

#12153

Benholio

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,292

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

Hilarious. The slippery slope argument is what is responsible for the failure of the enhanced background check bill. You had it backwards.

I never suggested that legislators or voters were bound to logic.

05-10-2013 , 02:30 PM

#12154

Sommerset

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benholio

I never suggested that legislators or voters were bound to logic.

I honestly dont understand why both GRA guys who have commented on this thus far have failed to realize this

05-10-2013 , 03:05 PM

#12155

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommerset

I honestly dont understand why both GRA guys who have commented on this thus far have failed to realize this

Lol you mean, disregarded?

05-10-2013 , 03:08 PM

#12156

Sommerset

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

Lol you mean, disregarded?

Why would you want to disregard logic?

In any case, no, thats not what I meant. When I or someone else in this thread has said that slippery slope is in this case an invalid argument, GRA's have responded with the equivalent of "but its used all the time effectively"!

This is very irrelevant to the point that the argument is logically invalid.

Its not that you are giving an incorrect response, your response is not applicable.

05-10-2013 , 03:10 PM

#12157

pvn

Guest

Posts: n/a

Quote:

Originally Posted by Low Key

It should be a lot easier to pass incremental, watered-down legislation that doesn't have much effect, but leads to further legislation once the chicken littles see that the sky did not, in fact, fall.

yeah guys don't worry there's no slippery slope conspiracy at all

05-10-2013 , 03:11 PM

#12158

Sommerset

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by pvn

yeah guys don't worry there's no slippery slope conspiracy at all

Handfull of random people on messageboard= ZOMG conspiraciez!

05-10-2013 , 03:25 PM

#12159

Low Key

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33,327

What this, pvn proving he can barely comprehend the English language? And using a snappy one-liner with no substance to do so?

Well I never!

05-10-2013 , 04:19 PM

#12160

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommerset

No I mean disregard all the stuff you have been blabbering on about. Incremental change aka the slippery slope is real and many who advocate for more gun control are trying to get as much restriction as they can. It is not a good idea for them to admit this so they don't. Some do though.

In summary, who gives a ****

05-10-2013 , 04:19 PM

#12161

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommerset

Handfull of random people on messageboard= ZOMG conspiraciez!

You forgot the Senate

05-10-2013 , 04:24 PM

#12162

Sommerset

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

No I mean disregard all the stuff you have been blabbering on about. Incremental change aka the slippery slope is real and many who advocate for more gun control are trying to get as much restriction as they can. It is not a good idea for them to admit this so they don't. Some do though.

In summary, who gives a ****

Translation: I can't prove this, but trust me it's happening.

I sure hope you extend the same courtesy to 9/11 truthers and new world order believers that you expect here.

also logic= blathering.... so awesome.

05-10-2013 , 04:25 PM

#12163

Low Key

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 33,327

Sommerset, you don't get it. Pilk understands that people like DBJ are just gun grabbers. Obv dbj can't admit it, but he clearly is because, y'know, slippery slopes or something

05-10-2013 , 05:02 PM

#12164

pvn

Guest

Posts: n/a

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommerset

Handfull of random people on messageboard= ZOMG conspiraciez!

Yes keep walking it back. first it was nobody, now it's well yeah that's just one crazy person, etc.

05-10-2013 , 05:05 PM

#12165

Riverman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73,135

Yeah, keep ****ing that 'they'll ban guns in no time if we run background checks' chicken.

There are over 100 million guns in the United States and no registry. Gun confiscation simply is not happening.

05-10-2013 , 05:08 PM

#12166

pvn

Guest

Posts: n/a

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

dude I totally agree that it's not happening any time soon

read for comprehension instead of just letting your lizardbrane kneejerk when you see keywords.

05-10-2013 , 05:09 PM

#12167

pvn

Guest

Posts: n/a

"it's not going to happen" and "this is what certain people would like to see" are not mutually exclusive

of course nobody can post in this thread without ratcheting the rhetoric all the way up

05-10-2013 , 05:13 PM

#12168

Riverman

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 73,135

i mean, of course some people want to ban guns. some people want to ban all abortions, its not a reason not to prohibit late term coat hangers.

05-10-2013 , 05:14 PM

#12169

All-In Flynn

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 10,923

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

many who advocate for more gun control are trying to get as much restriction as they can. It is not a good idea for them to admit this so they don't. Some do though.

I asked earlier:

Quote:

Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

What percentage of gun control advocates want to ban all guns?

What percentage of the general population that favours universal background checks want to ban all guns?

... and got no answer. What would your estimates be?

05-10-2013 , 05:20 PM

#12170

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommerset

I can't prove it? Feinstein's quote has been posted many times itt. Case closed openly admitted to advocating a ban. It's not up for debate, it is true. Just because you are trying to block it out doesn't make it false.

Also lmfao at comparing the stated views of a US Senator who sponsored the original awb to a 9/11 truther.

05-10-2013 , 05:21 PM

#12171

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

i mean, of course some people want to ban guns. some people want to ban all abortions, its not a reason not to prohibit late term coat hangers.

Yeah and people who just want to make it harder to get abortions aren't trying to ban them altogether right?

05-10-2013 , 05:28 PM

#12172

Sommerset

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3,863

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pilkain

So in your mind, one U.S. Senator has more pull than the stated (or implicit) views of both houses+ the POTUS?

You are a conspiracy theorist to the hilt, there is nothing surprising about you.

05-10-2013 , 05:32 PM

#12173

Pilkain

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,779

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sommerset

So in your mind, one U.S. Senator has more pull than the stated (or implicit) views of both houses+ the POTUS?

You are a conspiracy theorist to the hilt, there is nothing surprising about you.

Which conspiracy am I theorizing?