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12-31-2012 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Oh Lawdy we can't instantly define something with a casual knowledge of the subject and 4 seconds of thought. Whatever shall we do? All legislation should be 4 sentences at most and written in crayon.
ITT suzzer laughs at his own ignorance. Unfortunately that ignorance made it into the 'assault rifle' law. Pretty sure this bushmaster used in conn wouldnt be an assault rifle.
12-31-2012 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
You got them mixed up, Ike. It is "assault rifle" that has a specific, military definition (a definition that requires burst mode or full-auto, which civilian AR-15s do not have.)

"Assault weapon" is the made up term that Feinstein and Obama like so much.
I thought he might be confusing them since he's been seeming to for quite some time ITT but wasn't sure.

His last post leads me to believe he is.
12-31-2012 , 03:07 PM
oh jesus it's assault weapon? That's even dumber. My weapons are not made for assault homie, just hugs.
12-31-2012 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Assault rifles are good for feeling like a badass blowing **** up at the gun range, and fantasizing about the end of days, and that's about it. Oh yeah - and the occasional bank robbery shootout or mass murder.
People don't "blow up ****" at a gun range. They make small holes in paper/cardboard targets.
12-31-2012 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
People don't "blow up ****" at a gun range. They make small holes in paper/cardboard targets.
BS on this (atleast in the South)

People love hauling all manner of random stuff out there and destroying it. Obama campaign yard signs got pretty popular at one point.
12-31-2012 , 03:10 PM
I've been at a gun range where a dude was shooting an assault rifle (seemed automatic but maybe he was just really really fast on the trigger, couldn't see the gun) out of the back of a van at a propane tank.
12-31-2012 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHammer
My ban proposes getting rid of semi-automatic handguns as well. If it's harder to get handguns, it will be harder to kill yourself with them.

Another hypothetical:

If my ban goes into effect and it cuts gun deaths by 10% (3000), would you be in favor of it?

You still get shotguns, revolvers, rifles (lever, bolt, semi-auto no removable mags 10 round cap).
What is the reasoning behind banning semi-automatic handguns but not revolvers?
12-31-2012 , 03:11 PM
Guess I've been going to the wrong gun ranges, then, lol.
12-31-2012 , 03:14 PM
Well, I shouldn't really call it a range. It's a berm at the end of a field with a few picnic tables set up that everyone is able to use. Not sure if it's public land or if the guy that owns it just doesn't care.
12-31-2012 , 03:21 PM
When I owned guns I always pulled my van up to the gun range and fired from the backseat.
12-31-2012 , 03:23 PM
One of my favorite gun range memories is a guy literally rolling a wheel barrow full of guns from his truck to the picnic tables. As a kid that was the most badass thing I had ever seen and I was begging my parents for a gun for a month after that
12-31-2012 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyDizzle
When I owned guns I always pulled my van up to the gun range and fired from the backseat.
lol
12-31-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyDizzle
What is the reasoning behind banning semi-automatic handguns but not revolvers?
Less scary ldo
12-31-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
People don't "blow up ****" at a gun range. They make small holes in paper/cardboard targets.
Apparently you've never been to an outdoor gun range.
12-31-2012 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by surftheiop
One of my favorite gun range memories is a guy literally rolling a wheel barrow full of guns from his truck to the picnic tables. As a kid that was the most badass thing I had ever seen and I was begging my parents for a gun for a month after that
How did parents so negligent raise such a sophisticated young man as yourself?
12-31-2012 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ashington
Eventually a teacher will lose it and shoot up his/her class. The NRA's response will be that the school children should be armed.
Maybe older children, say junior high students and older should have the right to carry in school. It sounds crazy, but at least it's something most americans would consider as a way to protect their children. At least the parents who believe that the more guns that are in circulation = more gun shot victims = even more guns need to be in circulation to stop the increased gun shot victims.
12-31-2012 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyDizzle
How did parents so negligent raise such a sophisticated young man as yourself?
I probably wouldn't have let myself go to the gun range either. But I had been begging to try target shooting for a couple years and they finally broke down and let me go with a long time family friend who was retired ATF (or something like that) and we shot a .22 at targets. I dont remember the details but I think he found a convenient reason to leave once the wheelbarrow started rolling up.
12-31-2012 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rjoefish
I thought he might be confusing them since he's been seeming to for quite some time ITT but wasn't sure.

His last post leads me to believe he is.
My interpretation is he's got some vague beef with the legal definition of "assault rifle," but isn't going to tell us what the beef is.
12-31-2012 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki
Maybe older children, say junior high students and older should have the right to carry in school. It sounds crazy, but at least it's something most americans would consider as a way to protect their children. At least the parents who believe that the more guns that are in circulation = more gun shot victims = even more guns need to be in circulation to stop the increased gun shot victims.
Trololololol
12-31-2012 , 04:31 PM
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Change it to ~0% and this is true for pretty much everybody.....but totally irrelevant. The famous (perhaps apocryphal?) example is the OJ trial when the prosecution (correctly) said that OJ had a history of beating his wife which makes him more likely to kill her. And the defense rebutted with the also correct but totally irrelevant fact that given OJ beat his wife the chances of him killing her are 10000:1.
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Originally Posted by AlexM
It has nothing to do with math. If my child is murdered/missing/whatever, the chances I had anything to do with it are 0 because I, as an individual, am completely and totally incapable of having done such a thing. The statistics are irrelevant to that fact. To say that I might be capable of such a thing because you're applying general population statistics to me is insulting. Hell, I'd be significantly less insulted if you tried something similar with me that was race related.
Exactly.
12-31-2012 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyDizzle
What is the reasoning behind banning semi-automatic handguns but not revolvers?
What type of gun is responsible for the majority of gun deaths and is most commonly used by criminals?
12-31-2012 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JimHammer
What type of gun is responsible for the majority of gun deaths and is most commonly used by criminals?
I'm guessing it's handguns. Semi-automatic? In your scenario it quickly becomes the revolver.

If your reason for banning semi-automatics is because, "more people use them". This doesn't seem all that productive. Is there a better reason?
12-31-2012 , 05:11 PM
To be more to the point, why would you ban a semi-automatic handgun that has the same capacity for holding ammunition as a revolver?
12-31-2012 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Hendricks433
lol, you really think that you could get a ban to go through and be executed that takes away all Semi Auto guns? You say you dont want to ban guns but thats effectively what that is.
If you can't figure out how to fire a gun that's not semi-automatic, that's on you. And semi-automatic rifles limited to 10 rounds without a removable magazine would be permitted. Find me a use for an AR-15 that couldn't be covered with one of my allowed guns.

This ban will never get passed, it's just what I think would be effective.

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What do we do about schools? You dont think that people will still get their hands on guns?
Of course they will get their hands on guns. Shootings will still happen. We should try to limit the damage that is done.

Armed teachers can only respond once the shooting starts. We need to try to prevent the shooting from starting.

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Less scary ldo
Here's an idea: let's just make all guns pink. That would never get passed because they would have to revoke your man card.

12-31-2012 , 05:15 PM
guys

jim thinks we should stop the shootings from happening in the first place.

problem solved.

      
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