I thought that was what all of the drug users were for?

Jeez, how are you guys so bad at life?

Laws done have to magically make everyone follow them to be worth passing. That is why there is a large body of manpower called law enforcement.

Its pretty easy. First you stop convicting drug users, freeing up space, funds and manpower. Then you give people 6 months to hand over their guns in a buyback scheme. Then the law goes into effect banning all guns of a certain type, semi auto rifles, any high capacity magazine, any automatic weapon, any silencer - nothing is grandfathered in. You go after ranges, gun shops, websites and so on using undercover cops and any that dont immediately report the illegal gun or someone asking about something illegal you immediately shut down. Then you spot check registered gun owners, NRA members and anyone else recognised as a gun owner with mandatory sentences for anyone with an illegal gun of 6 months in federal pound you in the ass prison taking up those spots freed up by ending the drug war. Gun owners have an extra year to start handing over illegal guns with no prison term in a gun amnesty lasting a year after the ban goes into effect so they can start to realise the error of their ways when bubba from the gun club is hauled away given the chance to prove if he is a man or a wife without his gat.

2 years and I will get most semi auto rifles and high capacity magazines off the street. Just give me a place to stand and a long enough pole to beat them with and I shall move the erf.

phill,

why not just invent a button that makes all the guns disappear? seems just as likely to ever happen in this country.

I love you.

Just repeal those pesky 2nd and 4th amendments and come up with funding for the most massive door to door search ever and you can start your plan Phill.

Make sure to outlaw all of the basic tools that could be used to make simple firearms (like a Sten gun).

Guess you could just use the same resources that keep the borders closed to illegal drugs, guns and people already to stop anything else from coming in.

For someone whose entire dumb political philosophy is based on understanding incentives you have a very poor understanding of incentives.

Since when does funding matter? I haven't seen a solid plan from pro gun ppl to fund multiple armed gaurds in schools

It wouldnt take much effort to ban stuff like assault rifles, high capacity magazines, silencers and automatics and you wouldnt need to repeal any amendments at all. Most people would give up the weapons in the buy back scheme given they would never legally be able to own and operate them ever again turning their value into something resembling scrap metal.

Plus as I say the resources can be found by diverting them from the drug war.

That is probably because the only people that want multiple armed guards in schools are either trolling or out of touch with reality.

Why focus on the funding part (which would still be massive) when the 2nd/4th aren't going anywhere?

I am all for ending the drug war... as long as a meaningful amount of people want drugs they will get them somehow.

I think you seriously underestimate how hard national confiscation is going to be, especially with the recent Supreme Court decisions and makeup.

Even getting the old toothless AWB back in place is going to be almost impossible... and it didn't even confiscate a single gun/magazine.

Probably want to read the article I just posted Phil before saying people will just give up their guns

The one where some douche who is part of the problem bought an illegal gun? What was that meant to prove?

The NRA is partially right that America has a problem. Part of it is thinking the 4 million people the NRA represents matter as it is a tiny voting block and another part is that most people dont have a clue how safe life is so they buy guns to fight the imaginary monsters under their bed.

If only you Americans could find a way to Deal with the flaws in your constitution. I'm convinced that in a generation's time you'd be able to look back at this moment in time and laugh at how absurd parts of your antiquated constitution were. It'd be like looking back and remembering when you used to be able to smoke in the office and drive cars without seatbelts

I think he meant the part with all the statistics from the US, Europe and Australia where people turned in or registered a small percentage of the guns that existed when bans/restrictions were put in place.

Please explain how random spot checks for NRA members and those will gun licenses for non-assault rifles don't violate the fourth amendment.

I am in favor of getting rid of assault rifles - but its not going to be nearly as easy as you indicate. Yes many will turn them in, but many won't and unless you suspend the 4th amendment, there will be no easy way to locate them (and this is ignoring the guns that are in the hands of criminals).

Existing guns don't last forever. Attrition would reduce their numbers over time.

The 4th amendment makes it clear that you cant be subject to unreasonable searches and seizures and the SCOTUS has given a metric ****tonne of leeway on what constitutes probable cause that means warrants can be passed.

How much time do you think it would take?

Not that much leeway. If somebody has no registered guns how exactly would you get a warrant to look for guns?

What is "it"? Time before 10% are gone? 50%? 100%? I don't know how long it would take.

But the fact that it could take a long time doesn't seem like a good reason to keep on selling them. The number would go down, or at least stop going up with new sales every day.

Try a hundred years or more. Many people have guns and rifles that are already over 100 years old.

Upkeep is trivial and parts wear out from use not age.

Hmmm...except they pretty much do...if you take care of them...even if they stopped making find completely tomorrow, it would take a long time to get the existing ones off the street without a buy back.

And by take care of them he means basically cleaning and oiling them every so often. Not exactly high tech.

ive seen the guys on pawn stars fire guns made in the 1700s, surely the new ones can last even longer than those

Why wouldn't you have a buy back program if you wanted to get illegal guns off the streets?