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11-18-2018 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Clearly a lot of the people that are replying to me are absolute psychopaths who shouldn't be allowed to drive, vote, or reproduce.

In spite of your seriously dangerous mental illnesses, I do genuinely hope that none of you are ever in a situation where the only thing that will save your life is a gun, because clearly you all aren't going to make it.

Oh well I guess. Perhaps society would be better off. Cheers, violent nutjobs.
**** you
11-18-2018 , 08:23 AM
This Lirva person - was she this bad last time?

Last edited by jalfrezi; 11-18-2018 at 08:26 AM. Reason: Just read the abridged posting history. Affirmative.
11-18-2018 , 09:09 AM
this really is just like a perfect microcosm of american gun culture

she's so terrified of others when really the others should all be terrified of her crazy heat packing ass
11-18-2018 , 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
This Lirva person - was she this bad last time?
Yes.
11-19-2018 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
I do genuinely hope that none of you are ever in a situation where the only thing that will save your life is a gun, because clearly you all aren't going to make it.
This is significantly more rare than you think. From a pure actuarial standpoint, I dont own a gun because the likelihood of me needing it to defend my life is so lol rare.
11-19-2018 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
This is significantly more rare than you think. From a pure actuarial standpoint, I dont own a gun because the likelihood of me needing it to defend my life is so lol rare.
You think you are safe until...

Spoiler:
11-19-2018 , 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Yes, but WTF does that have to do with anything?
Do you recognize that the US military has killed far more innocent people in war with guns and other weapons of war than the Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's of the country have?
11-19-2018 , 03:18 AM
Update to the story I told about taking my pistol to meet and play music with a crazy person my friend wanted to meet: After a couple nights of ferreting around, I have very compelling evidence that this crazy person is related to someone who killed a lot of people a long time ago, with mental illness being a main contributor to the murders.

Taking my pistol is honestly a no brainer. If I ever meet this guy again, which I hope I never do, I'll damn sure have my pistol.
11-19-2018 , 03:29 AM
Is anyone familiar with tabletop exercises? For one of the classes I took for my degree in InfoSec, one of the class projects we did was tabletop exercises. It's a little bit like Dungeons and Dragons and it's pretty cool, goes like this, heeeeere we go!

So your staff gets together at the table and role plays a scenario, like you're dungeon crawling in D&D. A scenario is presented in which **** has gone wrong, and as a team you have to figure out what the problem is, what all the ramifications are, how to remedy them, and then work together to remedy and move on from the problem.

So let's play a little scenario. You are a musician. You can be any race, but your gender is trans female. You meet a crazy person through circumstances outside of your control. You then come to find that they are a relative of someone who committed a mass murder many years ago. You then have to reject this person from joining the band you play in, and do so via text and they take it very badly.

Fast forward two weeks, and you're getting gas at a gas station near your friend's house. The stranger appears, and has a crazy look in their eye, aggressive posture, and a knife in their hand.

At this point, you are prompted to complete your character creation. You are given the choice of adding a weapon to your inventory. Would you like a loaded pistol?

Yes, or no? Are you a one, or a zero?
11-19-2018 , 03:47 AM
I wake up from the bad dream.
11-19-2018 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Is anyone familiar with tabletop exercises? For one of the classes I took for my degree in InfoSec, one of the class projects we did was tabletop exercises. It's a little bit like Dungeons and Dragons and it's pretty cool, goes like this, heeeeere we go!

So your staff gets together at the table and role plays a scenario, like you're dungeon crawling in D&D. A scenario is presented in which **** has gone wrong, and as a team you have to figure out what the problem is, what all the ramifications are, how to remedy them, and then work together to remedy and move on from the problem.

So let's play a little scenario. You are a musician. You can be any race, but your gender is trans female. You meet a crazy person through circumstances outside of your control. You then come to find that they are a relative of someone who committed a mass murder many years ago. You then have to reject this person from joining the band you play in, and do so via text and they take it very badly.

Fast forward two weeks, and you're getting gas at a gas station near your friend's house. The stranger appears, and has a crazy look in their eye, aggressive posture, and a knife in their hand.

At this point, you are prompted to complete your character creation. You are given the choice of adding a weapon to your inventory. Would you like a loaded pistol?

Yes, or no? Are you a one, or a zero?
If my house burns down I'm gonna want like 10 fire extinguishers around my house. If there's a sandstorm I'm gonna want some covers to put over my windows. If there's a 10 day power outage I'm gonna want a huge ****ing generator.

None of these things are likely to happen. Preparing for a super narrow scenario with a device that would be REALLY nice to have in that very unlikely eventuality makes you a paranoid person. Except it's even worse because you are significantly more likely to hurt yourself or other people by owning a gun. You can't prepare for every single eventual problem you might occur. This is results oriented thinking.
11-19-2018 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
Mass shooting deaths are insignificant when compared to total gun-related homocides. They only seem significant because they are sensationalized.

that's refreshing.
11-19-2018 , 04:13 AM
and reassuring. It'd be so much better to die in a run of the mill everyday shooting than in a mass shooting.
11-19-2018 , 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Do you recognize that the US military has killed far more innocent people in war with guns and other weapons of war than the Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's of the country have?
Do you recognize that if the US military wanted to kill you, they would laugh at your gun and just drop a bomb on your house?

I mentioned it before but you are like a new person at a gym. No one is watching you or gives a **** what you are doing. It's your gun fetish paranoia that's doing it. And you are doing it to yourself. You live rent free in your own mind.

And here's the crazy part. There are tens of millions of people just like you out there. You are all watching each other and have these fantasies about being the good guy in a gun fight. And I'm sorry, but I don't want to be caught in the middle of some gun nutters trying to one up each other and be the "good" one thinking the other one is trying to kill you.
11-19-2018 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Do you recognize that the US military has killed far more innocent people in war with guns and other weapons of war than the Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's of the country have?
Again, yes, but WTF does that have to do with anything?
11-19-2018 , 08:31 AM
here's a situation, you are at band practice with a possible crazy person and they get it in their head that you are trying to hurt them, b/c they are all crazy and stuff

crazy person shoves you over and starts looking through your bag to find evidence that you are out to get them, finds gun, OH DEAR YOU ARE IN TROUBLE NOW

the moral of the story is this: dont just bring one gun, bring many guns and stash them in strategic places around band practice so that if crazy person discovers one and interprets it wrong, you still have a good chance reach one of the others in time to blow his or her head off
11-19-2018 , 08:35 AM
might be an idea to create a disguised gun which is cleverly embedded in the headstock of the guitar, and which fires when you twist one of the tuning thingys

just in case
11-19-2018 , 09:39 AM
I recommend grenades too, just in case. You can't be too careful these days with all the nutters that are around.
11-19-2018 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Do you recognize that if the US military wanted to kill you, they would laugh at your gun and just drop a bomb on your house?
The US would bomb itself then? Haven't nations unsuccessfully tried to invade Afghanistan for 2,000 years? I used to think similarly to you. I think the American people could put up a similar resistance if it really came down to it. With our landscape and the fact that our people are already armed to the teeth. I don't think it's as simple as "the military will bomb you".

I'm generally against guns fwiw.
11-19-2018 , 09:43 AM
taliban were hanging out in 1000km of uncharted mountainous caves

US military literally knows your zip code
11-19-2018 , 09:45 AM
you are absolutely ****ing delusional and should stop posting from fear of repeatedly making an enormous fool of yourself if you think that the populace armed with pea shooters and AR15s is going to mount an effective defense or check against the US military or an authoritarian leader who has the backing of the US military (spoiler: they always do)
11-19-2018 , 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Fast forward two weeks, and you're getting gas at a gas station near your friend's house.
Because firing bullets at a GAS STATION is a brilliant play. Almost as good as my strategy - I wear a suicide vest at all times so that when someone threatens me, I just lift my shirt up and start praising Allah. You wouldn't believe how fast they run!
11-19-2018 , 10:29 AM
God bless America, where people with serious mental health issues can still buy all the ****ing guns they want.
11-19-2018 , 11:43 AM
In Canada the crazy paranoid people or just those that live in a bad neighbourhood carry pepper spray instead
11-19-2018 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Update to the story I told about taking my pistol to meet and play music with a crazy person my friend wanted to meet: After a couple nights of ferreting around, I have very compelling evidence that this crazy person is related to someone who killed a lot of people a long time ago, with mental illness being a main contributor to the murders.

Taking my pistol is honestly a no brainer. If I ever meet this guy again, which I hope I never do, I'll damn sure have my pistol.
Hopefully the crazy person who had a crazy friend that murdered people doesn't find out about the crazy person on this forum taking a gun to band practice and possibly being in a situation where they murder someone

Reading posts like yours make it a no brainer to having gun regulations that are a little more strict

      
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