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11-13-2018 , 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Seems pretty good to me, but different strokes for different folks.
Was the 18th amendment a good idea?
11-13-2018 , 09:12 PM
So weird how the BUT THE CONSTITUTION crowd doesn’t give a **** about the evisceration of all the other amendments
11-13-2018 , 09:14 PM
I never thought of the practicality of guns in cars...wait, why do we want guns in cars?
11-13-2018 , 09:16 PM
In case a bear tries to carjack you.
11-13-2018 , 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Seems pretty good to me, but different strokes for different folks.
It's been mentioned before but the 2A was written at a time where slavery was legal, women couldn't vote, and people had to hunt/barter for food. Things change. Life moves on.

Also, do you even know what the word Amendment means? It means change. So why is this exempt from change? What is this sworn loyalty to this? It's a gun for chrissakes. It's not a person.

You live in a terrified little world where you think you need to carry a firearm around for protection. From what? No one gives a **** about you.

Gun nutters are like newbs at the gym. They are paranoid watching everyone else thinking they are the ones being watched. No one gives a **** what you are doing. Hate to burst your bubble, but you ain't that important.
11-13-2018 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Becuase they have a right to, which is protected by the second amendment. If they don't commit crimes with them, why shouldn't they?
You used to be smarter than this...
11-13-2018 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You used to be smarter than this...
lol no
11-14-2018 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
NYT published some comments from international readers about gun violence in USA#1

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I think this is the last one of these stories I’ll look at. I’m not sure how the U.S. carries on not reacting to this massacre. — Martin, France
I'll take this.

Hi... Marteeen? First of all thanks for calling all the way from France.

So yeah, we kind of gave up after a deranged 20-year-old whose mom thought it was a good idea to keep a military-grade arsenal in the house gunned down 20 toddlers at their elementary school.

And then absolutely nothing happened, not even the tiniest symbolic gesture towards pretending we cared about protecting our own children.

In fact a lot of people actually made money accusing the grieving parents of being paid actors - while the moderate, sensible Right stood by in silent acquiescence the whole time.

So the rest of us figured, it's not gonna happen then, it's never gonna happen until about 50 million people die of old age. So we're just waiting at the moment.

Hope that clears things up and have a #blessed day!
11-14-2018 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You used to be smarter than this...
11-14-2018 , 12:13 AM
OK maybe just computer stuff nothing else....
11-17-2018 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
pistols should be banned. Only non semi/auto rifles should be allowed. Shotguns for farms and hunting are okay I guess too
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Originally Posted by master3004
This. There are zero practical uses for a pistol/handgun.

Shotgun for home protection. Single bolt rifle for hunting. That's it.

big2k4, (yes)master3004,


I'd like to tell you another way hand guns are practical, and ask a few questions. This is from my personal experience, from something that happened just tonight.

So I play music with some friends in a band type of thing. It's just a get together on friday night a couple times a month and drink and smoke and cut loose and have fun playing some cover songs and some originals here and there. Nothing serious, no project type thing, just kick back and get faded and drunk and jam.

I play guitar, and this old friend of ours used to play guitar with us, but he's a raging alcoholic and ruins every jam night by getting too hammered to play, personal boundaries disappear and he gets all over everybody, had to go. So one of the guys I play with was like, "I met this dude that plays guitar, let's play with him," and so we met with the guy today to play. Most of the guys couldn't make it, so it was just me, my friend, and the new guy.

Friend sends me a youtube vid of some song new guy did previously and I check it out, ok pretty meh, whatever. Check out some other stuff on his youtube channel and holy ****, pandora's box just opened.

Dude is on and on about some ancient civilization type **** and people having green stomachs that laugh while they shower, racial and cultural segregation, like some seriously insane ****ing ****. Guy looks like Charlie Manson when's he's talking about this **** in his vid.

If you're familiar with me, you know I'm crazy as ****, which I aknoweldge and accept and work to deal with. I'm a whole lot saner than my AC days, I've had a whooole lot of therapy (yay free University therapists!) but if you knew me during the AC days you'll know I was absolutely off the ****ing rails. Take AC me and multiply it by about 100 and you get this new guy.

Anyway, I found a lot of this guy's social media profiles and I come across this one picture he posted, and it's him holding a letter stating there is a warrant out for his arrest for making threats to people over the internet. And he's captioned something over it saying some **** about a false arrest and terrorism.

So I find this **** out and tell my friend, and he's like omg wtf? .... well, let's just give him one chance and if something happens we'll cut it short. I'm like dude, hell no this ****ers crazy as ****. Way ****ing crazier than I am, **** this! And long story short, friend convinces me to come jam and meet the guy, saying he isn't like that in person, and my friend is in very good shape and knows some BJJ and other martial arts and he assures me he's got this if **** goes down. And so I'm like ok ...

I'll come and meet this guy and jam, but I'm bringing my gun with me in case this mother ****er flips out and starts trying to kill somebody.

So I have a bag that I take with me to jam nights with equipment like cables and ****, and I put my semi-auto .40 caliber pistol in it and took it with me, just in case crazy gonna holy ****ing **** crazy. I have my concealed carry permit fwiw.

Nothing ended up happening, though he was a little rude towards me because I'm trans and I guess he has a problem with that or some ****. Ok guitarist, basically average. Super ****ing weird. Orders of magnitude weirder than me.

So a couple questions:

1. Obviously the best play was to not meet the guy, but it was at my friend's house and he really insisted and it kind of came down to his call, so I went. Given that I went, do you think it is reasonable, or unreasonable for me to take a pistol and keep it in my bag incase this lunatic totally flipped out and set about with the ultra violence?

2. Do you agree or disagree that in this scenario, a pistol was practical, and a long gun such as a rifle or shotgun would have been impractical?

3. If handguns were banned and I would not have had my pistol, I would not have had a tool I could use for self defense in case a psychotic person tried to kill someone. Why should a person such as myself, keep in mind that I'm a trans female of pretty small stature, not have the right to have a handgun for self defense in a situation like this?

Last edited by forum ferret; 11-17-2018 at 02:29 AM.
11-17-2018 , 02:27 AM
If the guys is a serial killer or some **** (which is never) you end up accidentally shooting your friends or yourself or the guy takes the gun from you and shoots your friends and yourself far more often than you pulling off some Antonio Banderas in Desperado act.

Or you freak out over some minor thing, shoot the guy and then claim self defense like all of the other psychos that fantasize about being in these situations
11-17-2018 , 02:33 AM
If you didn’t have the gun would you have gone? If the answer is no then think about that.
11-17-2018 , 02:39 AM
tl;dr severely mentally ill person carries glock 40 cal to band practice because reasons

#murica
11-17-2018 , 02:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
If you didn’t have the gun would you have gone? If the answer is no then think about that.

That's a good question, and I'm not sure. I'll have to think about that. The only thing that makes me think about it is that I trust my friend with my life. If that wasn't the case then it's a hell no.
11-17-2018 , 02:50 AM
It's a Sig Sauer. Glocks are ugly af.
11-17-2018 , 02:54 AM
All due respect, you make objectively terrible decisions and should not be trusted with a gun. I do too. I shouldn’t carry one around either. That’s most people including cops. It’s ****ing stupid.
11-17-2018 , 02:57 AM
Crazy person attacks and incapacitates my friend and comes after me, I have no gun. What do I do? I'm on estrogen and weigh less than 160 pounds.


Spoiler:

whistle, perhaps?
11-17-2018 , 03:41 AM
I think what should be the easiest gun control rules that make the most sense are that guns should carry no more than something like 6 bullets and bullets should have to be reloaded one at a time. That doesn't interfere with target shooting, hunting, or the kind of self-defense like a physically weak person/old person/woman. It doesn't address most gun violence, but at least mass shootings.
11-17-2018 , 03:52 AM
I disagree and I think some people could lose their life if they are in a situation where they have to shoot, then try to break open their gun, reload, and shoot again. If someone twice your size is charging at you with a knife and you shoot once and it doesn't stop them, what are you going to do? You're ****ed.
11-17-2018 , 04:11 AM
If you aren't good enough to hit your target on the first try then why should the public trust you carrying a gun around? You would literally be unfit to do so, and the risk you would hit a bystander instead is probably pretty large.
11-17-2018 , 04:15 AM
Yeah, and like what if there are 29 maniacs THREE times your size with knives in each hand? You absolutely need a 30 round magazine in that situation or you’re ****ed.
11-17-2018 , 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
If you aren't good enough to hit your target on the first try then why should the public trust you carrying a gun around? You would literally be unfit to do so, and the risk you would hit a bystander instead is probably pretty large.


Have you ever seen how many rounds cops fire off in self defense?
11-17-2018 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Yeah, and like what if there are 29 maniacs THREE times your size with knives in each hand? You absolutely need a 30 round magazine in that situation or you’re ****ed.

Well yeah if you're being attacked by a big group of people like a large gang of neo nazis and they're breaking into your house with weapons of their own, you're gonna need an AK-47 or AR-15 and quite a few magazines/rounds of ammo.
11-17-2018 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by forum ferret
Have you ever seen how many rounds cops fire off in self defense?
I'm guessing many of them aren't fit to carry weapons, either. Disarming the police would be on the great potential benefits from disarming the populace.

      
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