"From 12 to 4 years old" lmao, did this air yet?

I think his show premiers tonight

Indiana gun owner shoots his 6 year old daughter in the head and kills her while cleaning a gun he thought was unloaded

**** people suck.

What the?

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/...his-own-mother

He'll probably win

Adding to the theory that some conceled carry owners aren't even killed protectors against tyranny but angry psychopaths who are just itching for violence like George Zimmerman.

These kinds of fights happen all the time, but with a gun they escalate

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/r...venience-store

Price of freedom...

Perfect story for ABC action news!

How is that standing your ground and not murder?

He was scared

I'm not a lawyer, but it appears he was physically shoved first.

This is one reason I don't carry or even own a gun. I'm certain I wouldn't shoot someone for shoving me to the ground. But if someone much bigger and stronger was super mad and I thought they would physically harm me, I'd shoot them.

Why? Because I'm a coward. And cowards with guns are a dangerous thing. Many cops who carry guns are cowards just like me. This guy was probably a coward. Instead of standing back up and dealing with the situation, he just shot the dude because he had a gun and was more powerful in that moment. As long as there are guns on the streets I'm all for the right to bear arms. But if you're a coward, you shouldn't own or carry a gun.

It is murder.

The story there says he has shot at people in that very parking lot before. Also, he didn't start the confrontation with the man who shoved him, but it started between the shooter and the shover's girlfriend.

Florida should at least have the decency to amend the stand your ground law to change reasonable fear of imminent death or grave bodily harm to unreasonable belief and/or willingness to lie about it afterwards.

I don't think the dude deserved to die, but when you escalate things to the point of physically assaulting someone you should know that you're taking an enormous risk. And I'd like to think I can defend this position.

i dont know what the florida law is, but it should be "reasonable fear of imminent great bodily harm or death". it shouldnt ever be "but, i got pushed and skinned my knee".

so no i dont think that position is defensible.

Lestat buddy, when an unarmed black guy gets shot you're supposed to argue that while it might technically meet the definition of self-defense under the law, you wish it didn't happen, not say that he didn't deserve to die but **** him, you're happy anyways.

lol at thinking anything, but this. The guy pushed him and didn't approach him, he was standing there until the murderer pulled out the gun and then he started to back up before getting murdered. There is no way you can shoot a guy who is moving away from you and claim you are standing your ground.

btw after a quick googling florida's law is: A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony. A person who uses or threatens to use deadly force in accordance with this subsection does not have a duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground if the person using or threatening to use the deadly force is not engaged in a criminal activity and is in a place where he or she has a right to be.


so one would have to have a "reasonable" belief that the use of that deadly force was necessary to prevent imminent great bodily harm or death. they add in forcible felony which seems to mean kidnapping,rape,murder,a&b w/ a dangerous/deadly.

none of that seems to be even close to warranted.

ofcourse the local sheriff announced he's not trying to even arrest the shooter.

I originally read the article and assumed all parties were white for some reason. Regardless, my opinion doesn't change. If you start a physical altercation with someone you're taking an enormous risk no matter what color you or the person you physically assault is.

And (in my opinion) this news story has nothing to do with "when an unarmed black guy gets shot..." by police. In fact, it has nothing to do with color at all.

He pushed him to the ground, which technically could be deadly if he smacked his head on cement. What if he got up and delivered a lethal punch to his throat? Everything okay with you then? Or if shoved him back and the initial shover smacked his head on the ground causing him to die.

It's just hilarious that there are people with the mindset of well if I shove a stranger to the ground the most he'll do is shove me back and it'll just be a shoving war and no one should you know, get seriously hurt or anything!

If the dude with the gun who likes to yell at women over parking spaces and dreams about blowing away other citizens with his bang-bang as he sends rounds downrange left his jammie at home that day, what are the odds he tries to start an altercation that ends with him provoking a “fear for his life”? **** is premeditated imo.

lol Lestat, shoving someone shouldn't mean you should get be eligible to be killed. Especially if said person deserved to be shoved. Also, you shouldn't be able to yell at someone and when someone else comes to their defense and shoves you be legally allowed to kill that person