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A dozen years ago, the state set up a database that flags law enforcement officials when a registered gun owner is convicted of a felony, deemed mentally ill, has received a restraining order or committed one of about 37 qualifying misdemeanors.

The list is known as the Armed Prohibited Persons System, and while it has failed to prevent mass shootings in San Bernardino, Isla Vista and other cities in the state, it has taken tens of thousands of guns out of the hands of people prohibited from having them.

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There are 10,226 people on the list statewide. Of those, about 2,000 are in Los Angeles County, a vast urban desert covered by only Richardson’s team and one other.

Last year, state Justice Department agents seized 3,999 pistols and long guns, investigating more than 8,500 people in the process. The list has never dipped beneath 10,000 people since its earliest days.

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The team is from various parts of the country and from various backgrounds. But they share years of experience in the field, a key to success in a unit whose way of working with potentially dangerous, unstable people emphasizes diplomacy over force.

Not once has a target fired on them.

I wasn't aware that CA actively tracks down felons, among others, in order to reclaim guns and ammo. The article's kind of a (thankfully boring) glimpse at what gun reclamation at scale might entail if we ever go down that path. Basically a lot of money, time, and people that can defuse an inherently confrontational situation.

02-25-2018 , 11:31 AM

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https://twitter.com/VicBergerIV/stat...73833984868353

02-25-2018 , 01:35 PM

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Jack Bando

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Look at that responsible "yeaaaaaaaah". ( to be fair your accuracy doing that is probably trash)

02-25-2018 , 01:51 PM

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Csaba

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How dangerous is that technique if you're on a shooting range and doing that under controlled conditions? Looks like he has a reasonable chance of shooting himself in the foot?

02-25-2018 , 01:53 PM

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SuperUberBob

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Another Vice News focus group with Frank Luntz. This time with NRA members after the Parkland shooting.

When even NRA members disagree with the NRA, you know ****'s gotta change at some point. Everybody in there was for some degree of restrictions on gun acquisition and ownership.

02-25-2018 , 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whosnext

I cannot believe that the NRA would put out that statement at this time.

Most people believe that the NRA's response to school shootings and other shootings over the years has been mindless and self-serving.

The odious NRA shill that spoke at the CNN town hall meeting in Florida only served to exacerbate and focus the ill-will people have towards the NRA in the immediate aftermath of the most recent heart-wrenching school shooting at Parkland.

To now call people taking civic and economic action to thwart the ridiculously large influence that the NRA has on American politics cowardice is loathsome.

Did you see Wayne LaPierre's response to Sandy Hook?
Nothing should surprise you with regards to the NRA anymore. They go 0-200 in a nano second and no holds are barred.

02-25-2018 , 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by heh

Did you see Wayne LaPierre's response to Sandy Hook?
Nothing should surprise you with regards to the NRA anymore. They go 0-200 in a nano second and no holds are barred.

How is he perceived by gun owners in America? He seems to be a walking talking PR disaster. The fact he hasn't been sacked astounds me.

02-25-2018 , 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by heh

Did you see Wayne LaPierre's response to Sandy Hook?
Nothing should surprise you with regards to the NRA anymore. They go 0-200 in a nano second and no holds are barred.

Speaking of 'paid actors' ...

02-25-2018 , 02:51 PM

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How is he perceived by gun owners in America? He seems to be a walking talking PR disaster. The fact he hasn't been sacked astounds me.

Remember the vast majority of gun owners aren't in the NRA, so all that really matters is what the hardcore members think, and they absolutely love this extremist ****. It's like asking if David Duke is a PR disaster for the Klan.

02-25-2018 , 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Max Cut

Seeing reports that some university admissions offices are issuing statements saying applicants will not be penalized if disciplined for participating in (peaceful) gun control protests.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...nPN/story.html

(MIT, BU, UMASS, Smith, WPI)

MIT clarified and said they want to hear about the disciplinary action from the high school but they approve of the walk outs and won't penalize for it since they support the action.

02-25-2018 , 03:31 PM

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MIT clarified and said they want to hear about the disciplinary action from the high school but they approve of the walk outs and won't penalize for it since they support the action.

“Kids will just spend 4 years staying home, say it’s a protest, and liberal colleges will admit them!” Is going to be a talking point somewhere. One thing that deplorables have made clear en masse is that they have no idea what happens at a university.

02-25-2018 , 03:50 PM

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I wonder how many have a specific codified policy about it. My *guess* is not many have one, based on the wording of the statements. They should, in my opinion. Not because it would have much impact one way or the other since there's a lot of wiggle room in admissions, but because it could potentially lower one perceived disincentive to participation in constitutionally-protected protest.

https://twitter.com/JamilahLemieux/s...84690668179456

02-25-2018 , 03:53 PM

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stinkubus

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The kids protesting now look like they could be cast for the next "Highschool Musical" movie. You do not, Jamilah. Sorry about your luck.

02-25-2018 , 04:00 PM

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LOL

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/25...louisiana.html

02-25-2018 , 04:27 PM

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Louis Cyphre

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I don't know whether I should laugh or cry when I see that a news article deems it necessary to explain what the root symbol is.

02-25-2018 , 05:54 PM

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stinkubus

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The fact that the meat of the story is that professional educators also did not know is even more depressing.

02-25-2018 , 06:45 PM

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Dominic

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Did you guys know this??

02-25-2018 , 10:16 PM

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fatkid

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Oof I like it.

02-25-2018 , 10:17 PM

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fatkid

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Crazy Wayne is a sick Trump style nickname.

02-26-2018 , 01:20 AM

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Praetor1an

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Originally Posted by fatkid

Crazy Wayne is a sick Trump style nickname.

Wacky Wayne would have worked better.

02-26-2018 , 01:37 AM

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patron

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I generally think that impactful first adjectives are better than watered down alliteration. Alliteration might sound better, but it's not as strong.

For example, Lyin' Ted and Crooked Hillary, pack more of a punch than Sloppy Steve.

Wacky Wayne is watered down, like your wacky, goofy but nice uncle. Crazy Wayne is better, although it might be even more accurate to use something like Evil Wayne or Murder-Accomplice Wayne or Doesn't Care If Kids Die Wayne. **** Wayne.