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02-23-2018 , 09:09 PM
DBJ had a J in his name. jcorb has a j in his name. Coincidence?
02-23-2018 , 09:15 PM
I think not.
02-23-2018 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
“The federal government shouldn’t violate the law, nor should we have 48 federal agencies carrying weapons and having SWAT teams,” Sen. Rand Paul

They should lead by example. Dis-arm all of those agencies and make them deal with the drugged out demons the same way they want the civilian population to deal with armed maniacs.
The idea here is not to disarm only the good guys with guns, the idea is to disarm the good guys and the bad guys.
02-23-2018 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
Yea if anyone wants to know what Parkland is like, picture the show Beverly Hills 90120. I'd be very surprised if anyone that attended lives in a lower middle class home.
There is no Andrea Zuckerman there?
02-23-2018 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
That school has about 400 students as of a few years ago, and it costs $400,000. We're looking at $60-80 billion to do this at all public schools, K-12. That's about 6-8x the cost of an assault weapons buyback, and does nothing for other soft targets, or for private schools.

Obviously the GOP would want to include a credit for private schools because they know where their bread is buttered, so add on another $25-35 billion.

Also, I'd like to empty out that school, give an untrained 18-20 year old an AR-15, and see how long it takes them to get into a classroom. I'll take under 30 seconds. Bulletproof glass? Cool, what's the rest of the door made out of?
02-23-2018 , 10:38 PM
Doesn’t even make the news anymore but there was a shooting plot foiled at my sister-in-law’s niece’s high school in Texas. Someone brought a weapon to school with intent but nothing happened, I’m guessing someone was tipped off about it and student was detained or something in that vein.
02-23-2018 , 10:43 PM
step 1: get rid of public schools because they're soft targets and too dangerous for the public

step 2: vouchers for private schools and churches to teach the children

step 3: allow churches to hire their own armed police the way universities can because now churches are the softest targets because of violent satanists and witches

step 4: church teaches the kids about the one true religion and how to use weapons

step 5: churches hire the graduates to carry guns around the churches and the surrounding neighborhoods, just making america great again in general
02-23-2018 , 11:12 PM
I bet a lot of NRA card holders would love to unload their guns into Dana loesch. Giggidy.

Her mouth would make a good holster... A cock holster giggidy.


I'm done here.
02-23-2018 , 11:15 PM
We got the duck sauce damn that son goes hard.
02-23-2018 , 11:16 PM
Is Rubio really lobbing up gimmes like this on purpose?


https://twitter.com/marcorubio/statu...65099394605056


I mean, yeah, good point bruh. Obv ban em all, thx.
02-23-2018 , 11:21 PM
I don't think Rubio thought that one through.
02-23-2018 , 11:41 PM
So it begins.


https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/stat...65941443424256
02-23-2018 , 11:47 PM
If both guns are the same, why do you give a **** if the pistol grip is banned? And how come militaies around the world use rifles with pistol grips? How come these mass killers all choose to use guns with pistol grips? Why was the pistol grip even invented if it doesn't affect the way the weapon performs?

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One of the reasons the pistol grip style is so common in machinery is because it is possible to ergonomically position the operating controls. For example, on the AR-15 and M16 rifle, a right-handed user's index finger can control the trigger and magazine release, while the thumb can control the safety or fire mode selector switch, all without needing to remove the palm from the grip.
You know who needs to eject magazines quickly? (hint: not deer hunters)
02-24-2018 , 12:02 AM
Rubio: This bill only bans half the guns, but the other half that are exactly the same are not banned. So that is why I will vote no.

Everyone on Earth: Should we change the bill to ban the other guns too?

Rubio: Nah, too slippery of a slope, plus what if it turns out we still missed one? Like, we ban 9999 assault weapons, but there was still one left that we missed. Gotta vote no.
02-24-2018 , 01:21 AM
The key to the assault weapon ban wasn't the specific guns it banned but that it banned high-capacity magazines that could hold more than 10 rounds.
02-24-2018 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
wouldn't the entire concept of this system have to rely on students being in classrooms 100% of the time? and couldn't a shooter negate the hallway smoke system by just wearing a gas mask?

automatically locking the doors to classrooms traps students outside them in a direct line of fire and if they were surrounded by smoke, it would be nearly impossible to find an exit.
02-24-2018 , 10:10 AM
Good to see that our public schools are turning into literal prisons.
02-24-2018 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Shoe
The key to the assault weapon ban wasn't the specific guns it banned but that it banned high-capacity magazines that could hold more than 10 rounds.
Ideally rules would always be written around specs, and not call out particular models. That’s way too easy to game.
02-24-2018 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Good to see that our public schools are turning into literal prisons.
The rest of the world probably has literal prisons that are nicer than that school. Also the rest of the world are probably going "WTF!?" when seeing these types of proposals for solving a problem that has an empirically proven solution that works(tm).
02-24-2018 , 01:23 PM
Mandating that teachers be armed is basically the way to keep me from going back to America. I can't imagine myself teaching a class of high school students with a handgun on my hip. I'd be horrified.

There's nothing more American than buying guns for teachers in lieu of school supplies.
02-24-2018 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by heh
Also the rest of the world are probably going "WTF!?" when seeing these types of proposals for solving a problem that has an empirically proven solution that works(tm).

Pretty much, yeah. I’ve always felt a bit sorry for Americans in the past who thought x gun tragedy was a turning point. As I very much doubted it would be. This does feel different, even de-normalising the NRA with companies distancing themselves is a start. I think the NRA feel it too, hence even entertaining the idea of the min age being raised for example.
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It’s like if there was an outbreak of Tiger maulings in Indian schools.

The rights response: what we need is trained tigers in schools as a deterrent!

The left: what if we reduced the number of tigers , other countries without tigers have 0 attacks

The right: that’s just due to cultural differences, no proof it would help
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02-24-2018 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Is Rubio really lobbing up gimmes like this on purpose?


https://twitter.com/marcorubio/statu...65099394605056


I mean, yeah, good point bruh. Obv ban em all, thx.
I mean Rubio is correct that the assault weapons ban would mostly not keep weapons with the same functionality as an AR-15 from being sold. And that most people are probably confused as to what the legislation accomplishes. So it's valuable for him to talk about this.

But the logical conclusion is that the proposed law doesn't go nearly far enough, and the US should implement Australian style gun control banning all semi auto rifles and all handguns.
02-24-2018 , 02:11 PM
Seeing reports that some university admissions offices are issuing statements saying applicants will not be penalized if disciplined for participating in (peaceful) gun control protests.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...nPN/story.html

(MIT, BU, UMASS, Smith, WPI)
02-24-2018 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I mean Rubio is correct that the assault weapons ban would mostly not keep weapons with the same functionality as an AR-15 from being sold. And that most people are probably confused as to what the legislation accomplishes.
He's not correct, though. The one on the bottom is easier for the user to reload quickly. There's a reason military guns have pistol grips and hunting rifles don't. The question to put to Rubio is why he's lobbying for civilians to own weapons that are explicitly designed for mass murder.

      
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