LOL
dude, your side WANTS people like him to buy guns! Like, the FBI literally acted in the way that you want them to act, and now it's their fault!

Maybe we can get these people Blue Apron subscriptions instead?

The limit of deer in NJ is one per day from Sept to February if you bow hunt and gun hunt. You're right, that's not enough to feed a family.

That's not at all typical. NY and PA allow about 3-4 weeks of deer hunting each, with distinct seasons for buck and doe.

Looks like another campus shooting going on right now. Hope the venison is tasty.

*raises hand*

I am terrified of guns. I will never own one. I would never consider it. What the hell is wrong with people?

NY runs from Oct 1st to end of Dec 19th.

PA runs from Sept 16th to Jan 29th.

Bag limits do very by state.

The dates I posted for all three states include bow and gun.

That's fine and if you are terrified you shouldn't own one. It was a tool and had a special use. I was exposed to them from an early age so I was taught how to handle and respect it.

Seems like you have more respect for a "tool" than the lives of countless people throughout this country

Tough tit.

I spent my years as a child in NYC with people who didn't own any guns. My father was one of a few because he was a cop. Perhaps it was because I was a child and didn't know better but I didn't feel unsafe at any point while living around people who did not own guns.

However, I spent my teenage years around guns. My father had a couple of handguns (Glock 9mm and a .38 revolver) and bought a few rifles (30-30 lever action, .35 lever action and a .22 LR semi-automatic). We would go to the range and shoot guns the way a father and son would play catch. It was common among boys in rural Pennsylvania to do that. We used to get the first day of deer hunting season off from school because of the amount of kids who would skip school to hunt with their family was too high.

I've been on both sides of the issue. Because of my experience with guns, I was once pro-gun rights. I never had a negative experience around guns and didn't know anybody who had negative experiences either. The people I shot with were responsible and disciplined and most people who own guns have that same experience. To me and other pro-gun rights, it was "Why do I have to suffer because some douchebag can't handle his guns?"

Once I went onto college and then to living outside of America, I began to realize that in the grand scheme of things that guns simply weren't that important. I live comfortably without them and don't fear my surroundings where I currently am and have lived. Meanwhile, I get quite uncomfortable around people carrying weapons even if they are trained to use them. When I was in Rome on vacation, there were Carabinieri standing outside of every major metro stop and in/around the train station. Seeing a guy wearing a bulletproof vest carrying a Beretta AR70/90 didn't make me feel safe. Instead I thought, "There must be a pretty big risk of terrorism if these guys are packing heat like that." So imagine how I feel around your average person open-carrying basically any gun if I feel that way around professionals.

Human lives are more important than guns. Those who argue that dead children are the price of owning something that you shoot at targets for fun but claim to keep for self-defense are scum.

from the FBI:

http://time.com/5162999/fbi-failed-i...-nikolas-cruz/

You can shift the blame all you want, rara. Truth is had the Cruz not had access to an AR-15 to begin with the failure of FBI acting on tips wouldn't have led to extreme bloodshed in a school.

Yeah, they didn't investigate. That doesn't mean that they would have found any grounds to confiscate his guns, or that if they did, people like you would want similar justifications for confiscation to be used on the regular, or that people like you want gun owners investigated on the regular for reports from friends and neighbors. Your team is fighting for the right of this guy to be able to get a gun without a background check no matter what the FBI finds on him! Even if they took his guns, he could go to any regularly scheduled Florida gun show and get another without issue.

Paul, I'm not trying to shift the blame. I just pointed out that they failed at stopping it. I'm also in agreement that no civilian needs an AR-15 for personal use. There should be restriction on who has access to these weapons.

rara,

What laws did Nikolas Cruz break ahead of this shooting that would have allowed the FBI to do anything to stop him?

The anti-gun lobby needs to a better job to separate themselves from condemning the tradition of hunting in this country and focus on military style weapons. I'd be overjoyed if some kid tried to shoot up a school with a bolt action rifle compared to the carnage a semi-auto rifle can do. Focusing on the ridiculous guns but leaving hunting alone gives us more allies than it loses.

Rara, almost everyone itt has specifically cited you as someone who should be able to keep/use guns (as long as you make some small compromise to only use certain types of weapons which iirc you already use). You are EXACTLY the type of person on the right who should be for making compromises. Yet here you are derping it up and telling us why we need to care about sparsely populated rural states and whining about how the FBI...didn’t confiscate someone’s guns? You don’t get to play both sides; we can’t say “everyone has a right to firearms” and then immediately change to “the cop had to shoot the black guy, he had a gun on him!” Absolutism on gun ownership is going to backfire at some point, too many people are fed up with the seemingly unchecked carnage we are dealing with.

wsj says it's time to arm the moderate school children https://www.wsj.com/articles/respond...and-1518740966

how the **** were they going to stop it, smart guy? walk me through it pls.

Right-wingers: DON'T TRAMPLE ON MUH GUN RIGHTS
Also right-wingers: this shooting is the FBI's fault for not trampling on this shooter's gun rights

Are you a poacher?


http://www.nj.gov/dep/fgw/pdf/2017/regsets17-18.pdf

Y'all sure do eat a lot of venison if a deer a day isn't enough.

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