People also don’t have sideburns like they did back then. Maybe the lack of sideburns is the problem!

Ah yes, all problems in society are because parents can't hit their kids anymore and no good has come from evolved parenting. MAGA.

Did anyone point out to these of ignoramuses that the murder rate is much lower today than in the 70s and 80s?

Why bother? They wouldn't believe you anyway.

Of course the 2A should be repealed. At this point it's not even debatable.

In Canada if you use 'self defense' as the reason for applying for a gun permit, it will be turned down. Imagine that.

There is no reason for civilians to have military grade weapons. Not when the military has drones and gunships. I say limit civilian weapons to single shot weapons; revolvers and bolt action long guns. And then talk some tech billionaire to buy back the rest of guns to start getting them off the street.

Too crazy to bring a backpack to school, but no legal impediment to him getting an AR-15. WTF this country is insane.

Guys, adios has informed me he is strongly issue-based. It just so happens that his important issues perfectly dovetail with all Republican talking points 100% of the time.

Let's just implement the Japanese system.

The obvious gun rights response is that the murder rate has decreased as gun ownership has increased since then.

oki loki, so why do you really think mass shootings weren't ten a penny back in the day?

~insert more sarcasm to dodge~

Guns per capita has increased, but households with guns has decreased. The increase in gun ownership is because of nutters buying more in a big way, not because of more widespread ownership. If anyone wants to argue that a redneck spending a paycheck on a 5th rifle makes everyone safer, please speak up so that I can lol at you.

Republicans are really playing with fire with this no comporimise stance. A lot of guys like me might be okay with some kind of middle-of-the-road approach to gun control, but if you guys are going to make it all or nothing, I guess write me down for repealing the second amendment and taking all your toys away. Wasn't my first choice, but you give me no option.

So far the 2nd amendment has been a hard backstop, but with 80% of people wanting gun control and a looming blue wave in Congress, maybe it's time to consider at least banning bump stocks or offering up some kind of third way.

Damn, and I only shaved off my pork chops about 4 or 5 years ago, just about when this major uptick in school shootings really took off. Sorry all thoughts and prayers.

Ohhh son you're getting awful close to talking back, and you know you don't get to do that, right? Mummsy and Daddikins took that from you when they "raised you right".


The whole ****ing line of debate makes no sense. Like, OK, maximum right wing, the problem now is Hollywood movies and video games and demonic possession and God cursing us for our sinful ways.

Whatever the cause of a more mass-shooting prone population is, banning semi-automatic rifles is 100% a way to reduce mass shootings. Your response to that is "maybe there's another cause so my recommendation is do nothing"? That's not ****ing responsive.

(the US Military paid $105 for an M14, the gun replaced by the M16, in the 60s, with all the benefits of buying in bulk. You can get a AR-15 today for $60 in 1965 dollars(~$500) paying retail)

About 25 years ago I bumped into a friend of mine who told me he was going to become a gun dealer. I also knew another friend of mine had been admitted to the hospital on a 5150 and was massively manic depressive and about as unstable as you can be. I did not mention that to the gun-dealing friend as I had no idea they were even in contact. But I knew they knew each other.

A few months later my unstable friend shot himself in the chest with a gun purchased from the other friend.

So today the gun-dealing friend (who's one of those semi-liberal gun nuts we get in the midwest) posted this on FB.



And this was my reply:

As far as I know this is the first time the subject came up between me and him. The last time I saw him was probably Dave's funeral and I didn't bring it up then. A lot of Dave's friends and family weren't happy he showed up at all. Guns - yay.

That is way, way too nice

Yeah, watching the survivors mouth off at Republicans on Twitter is cathartic.

Also, can we stop this "why didn't the kids say anything?" talking point that's going around. WTF is that going to accomplish? The kids aren't going to say anything because they know he's still going to be able to buy guns no matter how ****ing creepy he acts. Also he was apparently on the FBI's radar, so it looks like someone dropped a dime.

edit: ^^ last bit is not in response to suzzer's story.

Well, there were some school shootings "back in the day."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School..._United_States

Looks like 18 in the 60s. So the people on fb or twitter saying it just didn’t happen are liars.

Why is it more common? The GOP has made access to guns massively easier for the deranged. Our culture has glorified violence and attention. Our totally connected lives have made it easier to learn about other shootings, to see the attention those people get, the infamy and so on, and it has made it an attractive option for people who are easily brainwashed by violent propaganda online (such as from ISIS or the NRA or the GOP or the alt-right)

Literally any of this is more plausible than "we can’t spank our kids anymore, ergo they pick up guns and shoot people"

Hummm.....

It was so much easier to buy a gun in the 70's and 80's. Some form of id was all you needed no wait time. It didn't matter if you wanted a handgun or riffle. Things changed after the brady law was passed.

Today, right now, you can buy a semiautomatic rifle, a bump stock to make it effectively an automatic rifle, dozens of magazines and thousands of rounds of ammunition to go with it, all without having to pass a background check.

well, here in the island of manhattan , you have to be basically a retired chief of police to carry , and crime and shootings are happening daily . Soho is a war zone right now too compared to the 70's

loooooooolllll crime in NYC is at all time lows