only 20?

Ah I see. Well in that case there'd be no doubt of the perpetrators intentions , unlike some dude wandering around your backyard.

Add handgun to this, and there's nothing inherently unconstitutional about its applicability to the U.S. **** it, add in AR-15s if you want.

If the above were implemented in the U.S., gun deaths would likely drop dramatically within a few years. And millions upon millions would still have their guns.

"To get a gun in Japan, first, you have to attend an all-day class and pass a written test, which are held only once per month. You also must take and pass a shooting range class. Then, head over to a hospital for a mental test and drug test (Japan is unusual in that potential gun owners must affirmatively prove their mental fitness), which you'll file with the police. Finally, pass a rigorous background check for any criminal record or association with criminal or extremist groups, and you will be the proud new owner of your shotgun or air rifle. Just don't forget to provide police with documentation on the specific location of the gun in your home, as well as the ammo, both of which must be locked and stored separately. And remember to have the police inspect the gun once per year and to re-take the class and exam every three years. "

what do the pro gun people (other than bluebassman) think of a policy similiar to the one above?

haha I'm shy obviously

You think that would pass an undue burden test? lol, I'd love to see it tried.

It's missing some specifics, but it's not a bad place to start at.

[ ] We have evidence Lantz was psychotic prior to the shooting.

At MOST, there are a couple reported stories that he may have had Asperger's. Asperger's is not a psychosis, it is something on the autistic spectrum.

Further, as we all know, there's not been a single incidence of poor reporting wrt this shooting.

If you're arguing autism = psychotic, then you GTFO. If you have documented evidence he was diagnosed as psychotic prior to the shooting, then do share.

Now I know that my last few statements are going to cause a ****storm of furious butthurt, let me clarify ftr.

from a personal standpoint, I am still fighting the urge to vomit, freak out, and cry my eyes out over what happened yesterday. I would give anything to have a button to press or other magical solution to use in order to erase this person and everything associated with him from the human timeline.

from a realistic and purely utilitarian perspective guns have more value than 5X the current level of firearms murders.

I am not even a utilitarian and utility alone is a waffelcrushing argument. When you add to that everything else there is just no question.

Again this is a mental health issue not a tool issue. I understand that you guys want an easy answer, but there isn't one.

Nice to see we can find one measure of common ground.

The entire idea, however, again fails NRA purity.

but.. but.. scawway black fire slinging thingys

Whoa, really? Hopefully I'll be proven wrong but I suspect the stauch gun-nuts ITT would disagree with you.

Most other countries in the civilized world think there's an easy answer.

This violates HIPPA.

I have been talking with a few of my friends who are mental health professionals about how and why this is. The short answer is that there are no answers. The long answer is that this is a mental health issue period, and we must find a way to identify and deal with these aberrant personalities

Calling them "scawway black thingys" makes our fear of them seem silly and irrational. It isn't. Guns are scary.

LOL no... because again I am on the very very very soft end of gun owners and if you try this idiocy I will kill you first. This sort of lunacy will end in all out blood in the streets civil war.

If only there was a way for an applicant to authorize release of medical information...like...say...a release

Yeah, um, they tried that in Germany in the 1930s.

And no, it is not a "mental health issue period".

How many children died in the mass school stabbing in China yesterday? The correct answer is "zero".

Two apparent crazies (remember, the CT shooter has not been established to be insane). One had a gun, one had a knife. In one, there are 20 dead six year olds. In the other, there are none. On it's face, it's more than a mental health issue.

It's always the gun owners who resort to threats of committing violence and war, ain't it.

Maybe it's your mental health that is at issue here...I guess I can now see why you insist that gun violence is a mental health issue, in that instance, if you're concerned you couldn't pass such a baseline exam.

LOLZ no... you are are a completely irrational child who is scared of the equivalent of a paper weight. If you had the same sort of fear of cars, swimming pools, or laders you would be locked in an asylum.

And again you are ignoring the facts, and not looking at the mental health issues that cause this sort of outlier behavior.

Again, NO your the one with the irrational fear of tools and the complete detachment from reality.

You're not a huge fan of privacy from government I see.

Shocking.

just want to make sure this is highlighted and pointed out

Literally 2 posts before this one you were crying your eyes out about this and then you post sarcastic drivel? Amazing sir, amazing.

GUNS = PAPER WEIGHTS

YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST!

Just a paperweight: