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06-29-2016 , 12:40 PM

#23276

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by campfirewest

Self defense
Hunting
Sport / target shooting

Self defense is a statistical myth.

Hunting and sport shooting can be done by using a firearm at the club.

06-29-2016 , 12:44 PM

#23277

Huehuecoyotl

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There are obvious benefits to firearms but it's important to note those benefits can be had in ways that reduce firearm deaths and suicides

06-29-2016 , 12:45 PM

#23278

Loki

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i like sport dynamite and grenade throwing, why can't I buy those things from walmart at 2am?

06-29-2016 , 12:52 PM

#23279

campfirewest

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I don't know, but I would love it if they added grenade toss to the Olympics.

06-29-2016 , 01:08 PM

#23280

ReliableSource

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

i like sport dynamite and grenade throwing, why can't I buy those things from walmart at 2am?

anyone could build dynamites and grenades in their basements. That's why we can't ban guns.

06-29-2016 , 01:10 PM

#23281

Marn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

i like sport dynamite and grenade throwing, why can't I buy those things from walmart at 2am?

haha, all I want to do is dynamite fishing. (on my private land of course, so it's legal)

06-29-2016 , 01:47 PM

#23282

batair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JimHammer

When my drinking affects other people, then it becomes a problem for society. That's why we have drunk driving laws.

If owning a gun only affected the owner of that gun, then there wouldn't be such an anti-gun movement. But when guns are used to kill 49 people in a matter of minutes, then it's a problem for society.

Not that the above makes sense. But my drinking caused more problems for other people then my gun.

06-29-2016 , 02:37 PM

#23283

steve1238

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Pools provide a benefit?

If you had sun over there you could try swimming.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimHammer

When my drinking affects other people, then it becomes a problem for society. That's why we have drunk driving laws.

Benefit of a pool?

Benefit of a gun?

You think driving drunk is the only alcohol problem affecting others?
Someone post domestic abuse stats and that's just the start.

See above for pool benefits.
See above post for gun benefits.

Amazing that there are so many obtuse posters that can't about that there is no larger detriment to society than alcohol, but will rant about guns are evil. You are all absurd.

06-29-2016 , 03:10 PM

#23284

LetsGambool

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Says the person who ignores the very real negative externalities associated with our gun policies but gets suuuuuuuper mad when transgender people are treated equally because of the negative externalities like (citation needed).

lol at you ever trying to give lessons on logic to anyone with a GED or greater education.

06-29-2016 , 04:10 PM

#23285

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve1238

If you had sun over there you could try swimming.

You think driving drunk is the only alcohol problem affecting others?
Someone post domestic abuse stats and that's just the start.

See above for pool benefits.
See above post for gun benefits.

Amazing that there are so many obtuse posters that can't about that there is no larger detriment to society than alcohol, but will rant about guns are evil. You are all absurd.

Spoiler:

So what should we on this forum do about it? Prohibition era Chicago does seem exciting as ****, but I dunno if we should just go back to handing the entire industry to Nucky Thompson and Co.

06-29-2016 , 04:27 PM

#23286

JimHammer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve1238

If you had sun over there you could try swimming.

You think driving drunk is the only alcohol problem affecting others?
Someone post domestic abuse stats and that's just the start.

See above for pool benefits.
See above post for gun benefits.

Amazing that there are so many obtuse posters that can't about that there is no larger detriment to society than alcohol, but will rant about guns are evil. You are all absurd.

To you, us arguing for alcohol is like you arguing for guns sounds to us.

But this is a thread about guns. Quit trying to deflect the discussion.

Feel free to start a thread about the evils of alcohol. Make sure you post the link so we can join in.

06-29-2016 , 04:50 PM

#23287

LASJayhawk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

i like sport dynamite and grenade throwing, why can't I buy those things from walmart at 2am?

I'm guessing you don't live in Arkansas.

06-29-2016 , 04:58 PM

#23288

LASJayhawk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

Self defense is a statistical myth.

Hunting and sport shooting can be done by using a firearm at the club.

You might want to expand your reading list beyond HuffPo and Salon. Just saying.

06-29-2016 , 05:19 PM

#23289

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LASJayhawk

You might want to expand your reading list beyond HuffPo and Salon. Just saying.

What part of my statement was incorrect?

06-29-2016 , 05:32 PM

#23290

LASJayhawk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

What part of my statement was incorrect?

Self defense is a statistical myth.

06-29-2016 , 06:09 PM

#23291

True North

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LASJayhawk

Self defense is a statistical myth.

Cite?

06-29-2016 , 06:13 PM

#23292

batair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsGambool

Huh? Im just laughing at you because you aren't very smart.

So bigotry against the trans community is bad but against the dumb is ok. Fun stuff.

06-29-2016 , 06:38 PM

#23293

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by True North

Cite?

Where's Goofball with his maths? Pretty sure you're more likely to brandish your firearm at a family member or friend, or use it to off yourself/family/friend/stranger, than you are to use it to ward off or defend yourself against the bad guys.

06-29-2016 , 06:39 PM

#23294

kerowo

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People can choose not to be dumb.

06-29-2016 , 06:47 PM

#23295

True North

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oroku$aki

Oh, no, I wanted LASJ to back up his assertion that self defence is NOT a statistical myth.

06-29-2016 , 06:52 PM

#23296

Oroku$aki

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Maybe he'll still make an attempt?

06-29-2016 , 07:14 PM

#23297

batair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kerowo

People can choose not to be dumb.

Well at least steve can still give the non high school graduate dims some of those logic lessons. So he has that going for him.

06-29-2016 , 09:01 PM

#23298

JimHammer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve1238

I'm much more intelligent than those calling me dumb. It doesn't bother me.

Cite?

06-29-2016 , 09:03 PM

#23299

LASJayhawk

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Quote:

Originally Posted by True North

Oh, no, I wanted LASJ to back up his assertion that self defence is NOT a statistical myth.

Why aren't you asking master to back up his statement it is? He's the one that made an unfounded claim, I just called him on it.

06-29-2016 , 09:15 PM

#23300

LASJayhawk

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VPC , a gun grabber group estimates a little over 67,000 a year.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/taki...ensive-gun-use

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