The fact that it's seen as some tactical disaster for Dems that the Mueller investigation...happened?...and didn't indict the president shows how hilariously one sided the presumption of good faith is in this country.

How many investigations into Hillary's emails, Benghazi, etc came up dry? And the media propagated the idea that so many investigations just must mean something sinister really is up, it's just hidden so well by Crooked Hillary and her acid washed hard drive.

Now one narrowly defined investigation we haven't even seen the report of and the bull**** "Trump now has a clear well defined charter and path forward out of the darkness" derp pieces start cascading from every major publication.

A complete crock of ****.

Yea for some reason I don't remember Bill Haywood and Greenwald rejoicing in victory and celebrating the vanquishing of the media by Hillary Clinton after she absolutely crushed the Benghazi hearings. Very strange.

JFC, complete lunacy with libs love for Mueller. Dude was FBI director for 12 years, 12 years!, and appointed by Bush Jr., Bush ****ing JR!., was a part of WMD lies, etc. Sure, Mr. President, you can throw shade on me on Twitter every day for 2 years and I won't say a ****ing word to defend myself, and yes sir, please submit written responses by your lawyers to my questions when we all know you are a rambly truth spoiling idiot when having to answer off the cuff.

Yeah exactly.

Also to the Bill Haywood’s out there, who cares what talking heads are saying? The left doesnt have the equivalent of Fox News in this country, which serves as a propaganda machine to amplify their message. Rachel Maddow is not Sean Hannity; you don’t have every Democrat in the country echoing her the next day. She also doesn’t present patently false information on her show and instead follows viable threads of investigation based on real world events.

I get ALL the DNC emails and got their 2019 strategy survey - Trump/Russia has hardly been mentioned, if it was brought up at all outside of the occasional “protect the Mueller investigation”. As I said earlier, the only mistake now would be to push back harder and be perceived as partisan whiners. Push for the full report but there is plenty about Trump that needs to be investigated. You can talk about his corrupt administration but focusing on policy over badmouthing Trump has and always should be the correct path; it was Hillary’s mistake to focus all her attention on smearing him.

Greenwald always stated the Republican hysteria over Clinton/Benghazi was a farce, but he also was very consistent in being troubled over other parts of what happened, etc. why the hell we were there in the first place, the whole Libya debacle, Clinton being a laughing psychopath with we came, we saw, he died, etc.

Mega, mega LOL. While MSNBC is not on the level of Fox News, it absolutely serves a similar purpose for liberals as Fox News does for conservatives. Rachel Maddow is absolutely a Sean Hannity-lite, and she spent two years being absolute fervent, Charlie Kelly pointing at a busy bulletin board Russiagate lunatic, while giving very little time to all the actual ****ed up **** happening in this country.

How would you compare that measured analysis to the victory lap he's been doing the last few days?

Maybe I should preface every post by saying I'm coming from the extreme left, not the right. I could put it in a sig, or maybe a name and avatar.

Clinton helped start two catastrophic wars (Iraq and Libya) and did not send her own child, so I'm only mildly gratified when she buries GOPers in debate.

I delight in Trump getting nailed, but the Dems overplayed this one. They did that because they have little to say about the corporate class war so they seize on hype instead.

That's a good point. Russia hysteria owed much to cable news amplifying one set of Democratic voices. But they were putting Democrat-aligned pundits on the air, even if a different set of literature did not dwell on Russiagate.

GG spends most of his time criticizing the liberal media and you spend most of your time criticizing GG. Based on what both of you post about I guess neither of you think Trump is really that big of a problem.

Can someone explain to me why everyone is just assuming that Barr's report on Mueller's report is an accurate assessment of it?

I can empathize with trying to hold on to the possibility that the report itself will be a tantalizing tale of how Vladmir Putin orchestrated the 2016 election results through his puppet, Donald J. Trump, and Barr is just a stooge executing a cover-up. But let's be real here, boys, you're going to have to kick Trump out the old fashioned way. Like say, go slash all the tires on the fleet of GOP get out the vote vans on election day. Gotta get your hands dirty if you want to play in the mud with the Russian свиньи.

This is exactly the problem with "extreme leftists" or whatever you guys call yourselves. Your ranked preferences, as displayed by the content you put out, seem to be:

Trump > Clinton

Fox News > MSNBC

GOP executive branch > Mainstream media

I think it's very very hard for any intelligent person to come to this conclusion. It should be almost impossible for someone truly on the left.

I sort of wonder how much of #MullerMania was just due to his looks. The dude looks like he’s straight out of central casting: tall and thin with that intense hawkish gaze. Like, if Muller was just a pudgy guy like Barr would there have been as much hype?

Me criticizing the person who spends most of his time defending Trump from attacks means I don't think Trump is the problem?

Inso0,

I think most people know that people like you are a much bigger problem than Russian interference. We we just have even less hope of doing something about that.

Nope. We did it to ourselves thanks to geniuses like you who thought this was a good idea.

No. It's a disgust that people like you aren't interested in justice actually playing out and trolling about it. You're a bad person at your core.

If there was a report of no collusion without Trump appointing the guys who were ultimately in charge of how information gathered was handled I'd be fine with it.

Watch Greenwald's democracy now interview from this morning. He says that one of the main reasons why he found the Russia obsession so maddening is because it deflects attention from the real, actual harm that the Trump administration is doing. Instead of focusing on issues that actually matter to people -- healthcare, income inequality, opioid epidemic, the war in Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, other places I'm probably forgetting, the media let a bull**** conspiracy theory suck all the oxygen out of the room.

https://www.democracynow.org/2019/3/..._collusion_did

Taibbi's article is actually super telling for this. I know it was several years ago, but the mainstream conservative media view on Benghazi that it was an impeachable offense by Obama. Then it was an enormous scandal for Hillary. From 2015 until right up until the election people on Fox were saying that we were 60 or 90 days away from indictments for Hillary's email crimes. You might recall one particular Presidential candidate made Hillary's email sort of big issue in stump speeches?

There was nothing there, of course, but did that ruin Fox's reputation? Of course not. Hell, WMD's didn't ruin the MSM's reputation!

But golly gee Taibbi is still pissed that reporting about he and Ames' bragging about sexual harassment cost him his podcast.

This is a good take of the sort of mainstream left view(which Bill Haywood absolutely is not, lol though I think he blocked me. He still needs to change avatar):

http://coreyrobin.com/2019/03/25/tho...or-reelection/

The “Russiagate is the new WMDs” spin coming from Republicans is just infuriating. These slappies launched us on a multi-decade war by lying about WMDs and are now doing a complete 180 and saying “lol of course that was all bull****.” Just zero accountability for anyone involved.

nice, that's nice.

Or they're like David Frum and Bill Krystol.

Nah, he just needs it to not come out for a while to get in front of it and set the narrative. That the media played right into their hands is just icing on the cake.