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Awesome. Now replace "breed of the dog" with "make and model of the gun", and "baby hippos" with "trucks" and you're a chiefsplaneteer arguing about guns.

01-29-2018 , 10:31 AM

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I miss my adorable baby hippo thread

01-29-2018 , 01:48 PM

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Awesome. Now replace "breed of the dog" with "make and model of the gun", and "baby hippos" with "trucks" and you're a chiefsplaneteer arguing about guns.

No, you're posting a bunch of fearmongering nonsense ala Trump. Pitbull isn't a breed. There are ~5+ breeds of dogs called pits and they all don't share the same temperaments. You're one step above the dudes who mistakes Sikhs for Muslims.

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01-29-2018 , 01:51 PM

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Why is there a pitbull thread in the politics forum?

01-29-2018 , 01:55 PM

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And sup rep.

01-29-2018 , 01:57 PM

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Because reasons

Mostly 6ix yelling at people.

01-29-2018 , 01:59 PM

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Should pitbull threads be allowed to breed?

01-29-2018 , 02:28 PM

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So you know which of those 5 do have the undesirable temperament of killing anything it can get it’s vice like grip on with no warning or previous indication? Why don we just ban those ones?

01-29-2018 , 03:35 PM

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So you know which of those 5 do have the undesirable temperament of killing anything it can get it’s vice like grip on with no warning or previous indication? Why don we just ban those ones?

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In a 2014 literature review of dog bite studies, the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) states that breed is a poor sole predictor of dog bites.[29] Controlled studies do not show pit bulls to be disproportionately dangerous. While pit bull-type dogs are more frequently identified with cases involving very severe injuries or fatalities than other breeds, the review suggests this may relate to the popularity of the breed, noting that sled dogs and Siberian Huskies compose a majority of fatal dog attacks in some areas of Canada.[24]

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I kinda prefer not banning dogs based on irrational fears of them. I've been around pits before. The ones who are trained as guard dogs can be asses. The ones raised like normal house dogs were as well behaved as any other breed of dog. Anecdotal, sure. I probably wouldn't let children alone with them from my personal experience with these animals. However, I wouldn't let children alone with a huge variety of medium to large dogs because kids pull tails and all sorts of things that provoke dog bites.

01-29-2018 , 03:53 PM

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So which pit-style breeds are the most aggressive?

01-29-2018 , 04:20 PM

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I think you would need to conduct some sort of unethical experiment for that. I'm guessing no breed of pit is inherently more aggressive than another breed of pit. If there's a problem with pits being aggressive it is how they are raised and what they were raised for. Some people shouldn't own dogs.

01-29-2018 , 04:37 PM

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Sled dogs responsible for most fatal dog attacks in areas where every other dog would freeze to death. Surprising.

Are pits more dangerous than other breeds still not answered by pro-pit. Maulings and fatalities cannot be mixed in with bites generally. It seems like this would have been answered by something better than " While pit bull-type dogs are more frequently identified with cases involving very severe injuries or fatalities than other breeds, the review suggests this may relate to the popularity of the breed" by now.

01-29-2018 , 04:38 PM

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What is irrational about fearing a dog breed that without provocation has a proclivity to kill human beings? How many dead humans are "acceptable" before we should do something about that breed?

01-29-2018 , 04:42 PM

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And perhaps pits are an unnecessary attraction to people who want dogs with giant heads that look like they are taking steriods. These are dogs, not people. They are property that is sold and restricting their sale harms who and how?

I love freedom and am sympathetic to "letting *******s who want to own a dangerous looking dog so they can feel manly is the price of freedom" but more pitbulls means more people getting hurt even if it's only because of the type of people who want one. But, no one has shown that. And a dog bred for fighting being more dangerous is a perfectly reasonable contention.

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01-29-2018 , 04:44 PM

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What is irrational about fearing a dog breed that without provocation has a proclivity to kill human beings? How many dead humans are "acceptable" before we should do something about that breed?

That's fiction.

01-29-2018 , 04:46 PM

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That's fiction.

How many people have to die to exactly that for it to not be fiction? 1 a year? 2? Does it count more or less if it's a baby vs an old lady that is mauled to death by a pit bull classed dog?

01-29-2018 , 04:46 PM

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And if you are going to say that they did provoke the attack, what provocations are acceptably punished by death?

01-29-2018 , 04:51 PM

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If you haven't done these experiments, how can you know pis aren't naturally aggressive?

01-29-2018 , 04:53 PM

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Because he’s petted them before...

01-29-2018 , 05:08 PM

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How many people have to die to exactly that for it to not be fiction? 1 a year? 2? Does it count more or less if it's a baby vs an old lady that is mauled to death by a pit bull classed dog?

Lol, you're clownposting.

Cite any source that pits are natural human killing machines like you claimed.

I can cite an article that points out dog bites leading to death are nearly as uncommon as lightning.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steff...b_8112394.html

Even if pits make up a majority of fatal dog bites, you're vomitted crap itt is on par with Trump and Mexicans or Muslims.

Good job on reading sensationalized media stories that are cyclical.

01-29-2018 , 05:11 PM

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If you haven't done these experiments, how can you know pis aren't naturally aggressive?

Because there aren't ratios of incidences of pits killing humans like bears even though we are in closer proximity. Get out with your questions.

01-29-2018 , 05:13 PM

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You are still 100% mimicking pro-gun FUD. How could we possibly ban any gun because it’s too dangerous? Unsolvable.

Seriously who gives a **** about breed technicalities? Other jurisdictions have solved this problem.

01-29-2018 , 05:14 PM

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I remember why you were one of the two liberals/dems I had on ignore. Your argumrnts are too garbled to bother with.

You really should take this cogent wisdom to the oot thread. They need to hear it.

01-29-2018 , 05:17 PM

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Is there a single pro-pit argument that isn't just raw AIDS? Even the pro-gun guys have the occasional good point. It's just pictures of babies playing with pits and this baffling claim that no one can even ever know what a pitbull is.

01-29-2018 , 05:21 PM

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You, Trolly, and Kerowo provide zero evidence of anything claimed itt. You don't get to handwave. There are volumes of statistics and literature on dog attacks and pits.

Also, how is stating people can't even identify pits by their breed and violence caused by them is usually caused by humans in some manner garbled?

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