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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
They are uniquely dangerous because of the damage they can inflict with their attack style which is grab and shake, their high pain threshold which makes it hard to get them to stop, their strength and their general game that was bred into them by humans purposefully. Other dogs are "more aggressive" in terms of frequency of bites, but many of them bite once and that's it or else can't physically do the same level of damage, so they are still less dangerous. It's not that complex. If it were not true then why would they be chosen for dog fighting? Also, how the **** could any pit bull lover say they are the most special, loyal, loving cuddle bugs if then say there is not a difference between them and any other breed? Of course there is a difference in breeds.
I understand that there is a complexity with determining what constitutes a pit bull vs a mix vs another breed with a big head and neck or whatever. I understand that anything that looks like a pit is called a pit often times leading to incorrect identification. I agree that pits get sensationalized in the news. I understand that pit bull may not be distinguishable by a genetic marker and may be inappropriate term as a classification for this discussion when you get into the details, but guess what? I don't care. It is not that important to me. I still think this is what CT was saying as well, but I'll add that even if he was saying exactly what you think he was, it doesn't change much about the overall question or negate other arguments, even by him.
When you get down to the nitty gritty, it is questionable whether Americans should be allowed dogs at all. The irresponsibility extends far beyond the maulings to neglect, inbreeding, cruelty, abandonment....we claim to be dog lovers but it is a very selfish love. I said it before in the other thread but any real pit bull lover should be pushing for a ban more than anyone else. Pits are the biggest victims in the whole dynamic. They are mass produced, trained for fighting, coveted by ****heads, feared and loathed, abandoned and destroyed, placed in situations where they hurt other animals and people then pay for it, isolated and chained....but hey as long as you can have the EXACT kind of dog YOU want in your yard then I guess you really care about them, right?
Very well put. I love pit bulls. I had an 85lb boxer/pit mix (died of old age) that was the sweetest dog. He was gentle around kids, my tiny shih tzu was the boss of him, and the only person/thing he ever bit was a burglar that entered our empty house on a Sunday afternoon(and left a bloody trail). I always knew that the pit required extra vigilance because of its potential. I adopted him when I was young, but realized with time that the extra risk/responsibility was not worth owning a pit over another breed. His head was monstrous, and the potential for damage enormous.
I have since recently adopted an Aussie Shepherd mix, whose siblings have the Aussie long hair, while mine has short hair indicative of a likely terrier (perhaps pit) mix that we have not DNA tested for confirmation. She is just as sweet as my old boxer/pit, and her head/jaw morphology carries a lot less risk. At the end of the day, a loving dog is a loving dog. Non pits offer the same rewards without the risks.
I am all for sterilization efforts coupled with responsible adoption of the current pit population. Phasing out pits seems like the responsible thing to do through aggressive sterilization efforts, coupled with added requirements for pit owners (extra insurance, criminal background checks etc). Determining which dogs are pits should be done through reputable DNA testing widely available (about $175 on Amazon). Oh, and F**** breeders.
Last edited by Derp!; 01-28-2018 at 06:53 PM.