U think the red-line train Hogan got rid of in Baltimore was a good idea? Lmao if so

That, and your team has a vast judiciary of lifetime appointments of judges who believe Republican party power is more important that rule of law. Congrats. You win.

Grew up in Montgomery county and my parents are those people, although to their credit have moved increasingly to the left. Upper middle class professionals who are ostensibly liberal but also moved us north from Silver Spring in the early 90s because of "increase in crime" and they "wanted better schools" (aka too many brown people moving there). Which is also now hilarious given that Silver Spring is basically now a white gentrified part of white gentrified Greater DC, but I digress. I'd say these people are pretty much the modern Democratic part in a nutshell, very socially liberal while economically wanting to maintain the status quo. Hogan promised to not push his personal social views on people, and isn't going to disrupt the economic status quo, so people are fine with him.

He still posts but under a different handle. I won't share it in case he wants to stay private, but you can tell by the writing style that it's him.

I heard Pelosi at the press conf. yesterday and she sounded pretty sharp to me. She's for sure a better speaker than Trump, and she's a hell of a lot smarter than he is too.

Which part wasn't a good idea? The feds were paying for about 1/2 of the cost, and it connected several major employers in the city with public transportation.

Funny coincidence that Hogan completely cancelled the red line in Baltimore which would service primarily black residents, but went ahead with the Purple Line in MontCo/PG County.

What do people think of Tim Ryan? He looks like the most likely alternative to Pelosi. Last time I saw him he seemed meh to me but I don't know much about him.

can we please set a higher bar than smarter than trump.

2017 special election: Democrats ran a bland white male milquetoast centrist in GA-6 (white suburbia), lost.

2018: Democrats run a progressive black woman in the same district against the same deplorable, win.

McBath is a great candidate with a compelling story. Osoff was a empty suit with a D next to his name. Candidates matter. Chasing the center is a loser move.

Ossoff got 48.2% McBath 50.3%. I don't know that we can count the entire 2% to the candidate difference here.

If you wanna argue candidates matter in a close race sure but Florida doesn't show that this year.

AZ senate was center. tl'dr evidence isn't that great for this theory, example--nearly everyone liz warren supported got blasted (cordray in OH maybe most notable, since Brown did win).

If you could quantify likeability more easily, I am quite sure it would be more predictive of success than ideology.

I don't think it's the centrism that is the main problem with Ossoff types, but the milquetoast. Nobody wants to vote for boring, inauthentic, wishy washy people.

Are you kidding? If Gillum had been a bland centrist he loses by 10 points.

Wut?

Nelson didn't lose by 10 points and looked to get about the same percentages as Gillum.

+1

Most of the people arguing about this will vote for any Dem anyway. Other stuff, whether it's impassioned speeches, authenticity, height, looks....personal stuff....makes a much bigger difference.

Its anecdotal, but I think that district is getting a little younger even over the past 12-18 months. I wouldn't go so far as to say more diverse, at least not in a material sense, but there have been a lot of apartment complexes that would house mostly 22-35 year olds built in this area lately and the housing prices are such that you're getting a lot of young families moving into this district from the more urban areas as well.

This. Can a candidate make me feel the fire in my belly? Do I trust them?

I’ll vote for a D any day assuming they’re not corrupt, but will I go knock on doors for them? Will I donate? Will I phonebank?

A good candidate is key to enthusiasm.

lol ojeda is an ex military sanders->trump voter and you're out here stumping for him

Yup.

this country is ****ed

Why?

A) nelson is an incumbent

B) nelson benefitted from the non-voters that gillum got out to the polls

Lol. Nobody underperformed more than Gillum. Losing in Florida in a D+7 election is just bad no matter what. Nelson’s loss is slightly better even though he was an incumbent because Scott is a +10 favorability governor with infinite money. But lol at either of those dudes being a model going forward. They both did really bad.

Edit: And lol at pumping up a guy that voted for Trump(!!!!) s as a dem nominee. I would hope being smart enough realize Trump was a bigoted strongman on day 1 is a set in stone requirement. Lol at this forum!

thumbs up

Ojeda; stridently pro-union

What a ****ing idiot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Florida,_2012

Nelson got 4.5m in 2012 and only 4m in 2018. He wasn't riding Gillum, and his incumbency doesn't appear to have helped him.

Gillum's performance is totally standard. The highest margin for a non-incumbent D in a Florida statewide election of the last 20 years is Bill Nelson with 51% of the vote (D+4.8) in 2000. In the wave pres year of '08, Obama was all of +2.8. Florida has not had a Democratic governor since 1998. Gillum at R+0.4 is hardly an underperformance.

ETA: Then Republican Charlie Crist won an open governorship by 7 points in 2006!