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May LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of May?

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

2 4.26%

John Kelly

22 46.81%

Jared Kushner

0 0%

Ty Cobb

7 14.89%

Ben Carson

3 6.38%

Ryan Zinke

0 0%

Scott Pruitt

3 6.38%

Kellyanne Conway

2 4.26%

Rod Rosenstein

6 12.77%

Write-in

2 4.26%

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05-01-2018 , 12:01 AM

ScreaminAsian

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05-01-2018 , 12:04 AM

ScreaminAsian

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Kelly thinks he's saving U.S. from disaster, calls Trump 'idiot,' say White House staffers

Trump-allied House conservatives draft articles of impeachment against Rosenstein as ‘last resort’

05-01-2018 , 01:25 AM

BrookTrout

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Ty Cobb, which'll happen just before Rosenstein is shown the door.

05-01-2018 , 03:39 AM

hornbug

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It's amazing how stale this forum has become. The same old poll every month, no new ideas for a better thread.

05-01-2018 , 05:50 AM

simplicitus

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Pruitt survived last month against all odds. Now the knives are out for Kelly. I want to go against the grain, but too much value in Kelly. Nothing an idiot hates more than being called an idiot.

Without Jervanka the Trump adminstration would still be a flaming bag of poop on rails fueled by nitrous oxide, but they do seem to somehow make everything worse.

Last edited by simplicitus; 05-01-2018 at 05:56 AM.

05-01-2018 , 07:31 AM

eyebooger

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Did anyone get the boot in April?

05-01-2018 , 07:34 AM

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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McMaster? Maybe Tillerson? Or was that March?

05-01-2018 , 08:43 AM

+rep_lol

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ronny jackson got the boot. cant have a month without a high profile departure/withdrawal

05-01-2018 , 08:48 AM

Trolly McTrollson

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Going with Kelly.

05-01-2018 , 09:38 AM

#10

DudeImBetter

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thoughts on singapores welfare / healthcare system? I've got conservatives singing its praises and it doesn't seem so bad...

05-01-2018 , 10:12 AM

#11

Loki

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Well given all that information you’ve provided...

05-01-2018 , 10:16 AM

#12

dth123451

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So if all we have to do to get someone fired is leak that they called Trump stupid...

Nevermind, the replacements are always worse.

05-01-2018 , 10:18 AM

#13

Loki

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Didn’t work for KellyAnne

05-01-2018 , 10:21 AM

#14

Huehuecoyotl

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Ask them why we can't do Sweden/Norway healthcare/welfare. If they say homogeneity, ask them why they're singing the praises of a city state with less people and square milage than a mid sized city.

It's not a bad healthcare system but Conservatives kind of gloss over the socialism that underlies the Singaporean capitalism

Quote:

Here’s what Singapore’s conservative admirers get right: Singapore really is the only truly universal health insurance system in the world based on the idea that patients, not insurers, should bear the costs of routine care.

But Singapore isn’t a free market utopia. Quite the opposite, really. It’s a largely state-run health care system where the government designed the insurance products with a healthy appreciation for free market principles — the kind of policy Milton Friedman might have crafted if he’d been a socialist.

Unlike in America, where the government’s main role is in managing insurance programs, Singapore’s government controls and pays for much of the medical system itself — hospitals are overwhelmingly public, a large portion of doctors work directly for the state, patients can only use their Medisave accounts to purchase preapproved drugs, and the government subsidizes many medical bills directly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...stem-explained

But without the underlying state ownership their Healthcare system would be a living hell, which is suspect a lot of Conservatives gloss over or ignore for the parts they like. Kind of like how they call Norway libertarian because there's no minimum wage

Also Singapore owns virtually all the land, housing, and much of the economy

Quote:

It is true of course that Singapore has a market economy. But it’s also true that, in Singapore, the state owns a huge amount of the means of production. In fact, depending on how you count it, the Singaporean government probably owns more capital than any other developed country in the world after Norway.

The Singaporean state*owns*90 percent of the country’s land. Remarkably, this level of ownership was not present from the beginning. In 1949, the state owned just 31 percent of the country’s land. It got up to 90 percent land ownership through*decades of forced sales, or what people in the US call eminent domain.

Quote:

Then there are the state-owned enterprises, which they euphemistically call Government-linked Companies (GLCs). Through its sovereign wealth fund Temasek, the Singaporean government*owns*a large share (20% or more) of 20 companies (2012 figure). Together these companies make up 37% of the market capitalization of the Singaporean stock market. The state also owns a large share of 8 real estate investment trust (REIT) companies (2012 figure), which they call GLREITs. The value of the GLREITs make up 54% of the country’s total REIT market.

https://peoplespolicyproject.org/201...gapore-really/

05-01-2018 , 10:47 AM

#15

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

thoughts on singapores welfare / healthcare system? I've got conservatives singing its praises and it doesn't seem so bad...

is it like their drug trafficking laws, except like, with people who get sick?

05-01-2018 , 10:56 AM

#16

suzzer99

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Singapore is nanny-state socialism in so many ways. Chewing gum is illegal. Conservatives just want one thing to cling to out there to counteract the other 40 or so countries with normal UHC.

05-01-2018 , 10:58 AM

#17

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hornbug

It's amazing how stale this forum has become. The same old poll every month, no new ideas for a better thread.

To be fair, the poll options change every month due to the immense levels of corruption and incompetence at the highest levels of the administration.

05-01-2018 , 11:16 AM

#18

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

McMaster? Maybe Tillerson? Or was that March?

The head of ICE, but I don't think anyone had him as a write in.

05-01-2018 , 11:24 AM

#19

simplicitus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

thoughts on singapores welfare / healthcare system? I've got conservatives singing its praises and it doesn't seem so bad...

It's an entirely different system than you've been led to believe and conservatives are delusional and not so good about cross-border comparisons. Vox has had some decent content on the Singapore system.

05-01-2018 , 11:32 AM

#20

simplicitus

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So close.

https://twitter.com/TPM/status/991338783277813760

05-01-2018 , 01:39 PM

#21

Huehuecoyotl

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Trump came up with one or two knicknames but he's hardly batting a thousand, so it's kind of annoying to see downstream Republicans try and mimic it

Quote:

Don Blankenship, a Republican candidate for US Senate in West Virginia, is defending an ad his campaign released Monday in which he referred to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell as "Cocaine Mitch."

In a press release on Tuesday, Blankenship's campaign claimed McConnell and his family have "extensive ties" to China before elaborating on the reasoning behind the ad.
"His father-in-law who founded and owns a large Chinese shipping company has given Mitch and his wife millions of dollars over the years. The company was implicated recently in smuggling cocaine from Colombia to Europe, hidden aboard a company ship carrying foreign coal was $7 million dollars of cocaine and that is why we've deemed him 'Cocaine Mitch,'" the press release reads.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/polit...ate/index.html

Literally the last thing I'd associate with McConnell is cocaine

05-01-2018 , 01:45 PM

#22

ScreaminAsian

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Don Blankenship was recently released from prison for killing coal miners*

*NOT A JOKE

05-01-2018 , 01:48 PM

#23

Trolly McTrollson

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"Cocaine Mitch" actually sounds kinda badass.

05-01-2018 , 02:58 PM

#24

DeuceKicker

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Write in for Melania moving back to New York for totally innocuous reasons totally having nothing to do with Trump banging women while I was pregnant I pinky swear.