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05-30-2017 , 03:26 PM

#1251

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

Depends on if it's a white guy or not.

Confirmed not a white guy. Or at least sallow enough for us to be sure this wasn't just locker-room talk.

05-30-2017 , 03:47 PM

#1252

Loki

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Already nuked. We hardly knew ye.

05-30-2017 , 03:51 PM

#1253

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

He's got a lot to say about politics. I think he'll make a great addition if he sticks around.

Guess scallops didn't last?

05-30-2017 , 04:22 PM

#1254

suzzer99

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Yeah no - gramps was my luree.

05-30-2017 , 04:30 PM

#1255

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Oh yeah. You lured him from another 2p2 forum not CP.

Nm.

05-30-2017 , 04:34 PM

#1256

suzzer99

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As far as politics, I lured him from FB - where he posts a ton of political stuff but only gets one or two people to engage usually. I'm hoping he sticks around.

05-30-2017 , 04:35 PM

#1257

suzzer99

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I just asked a buddy who works for twitter about the Trump-bot situation. He said they're aware of it and looking into it. FWIW

05-30-2017 , 04:40 PM

#1258

zikzak

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How much longer before state-sponsored internet trolling starts an actual shooting war?

05-30-2017 , 05:00 PM

#1259

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

He's got a lot to say about politics. I think he'll make a great addition if he sticks around.

Can we agree that he's not really off to a great start?

05-30-2017 , 05:15 PM

#1260

jalfrezi

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Poor guy

05-30-2017 , 05:16 PM

#1261

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

No, I just have some familiarity with the subject

http://freebeacon.com/national-secur...mber-roulette/

In that article tell me where it says Russians aren't happy with the US based on US-N. Korean relationships.

05-30-2017 , 05:21 PM

#1262

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Can we agree that he's not really off to a great start?

I didn't expect him to be. He was sufficiently warned the thread probably wouldn't go well. The other side of the equation is I'm trying to expose him a wide variety of POVs rather than just him and me butting heads on FB. He's a very smart, level-headed guy who I've known IRL for a decade. I'm hoping to open his eyes some that Taleb and zerohedge are not the be-all end-all of political knowledge.

05-30-2017 , 05:52 PM

#1263

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

In that article tell me where it says Russians aren't happy with the US based on US-N. Korean relationships.

05-30-2017 , 06:06 PM

#1264

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I didn't mean not off to a great start as in being well received by the politics forum. I meant not off to a great start with, "having a lot to say politically."

Unless posting dubious links and shrugging counts.

05-30-2017 , 06:10 PM

#1265

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

Your point was you know about stuff and pointed to an article that showed zero evidence of it.

You make these silly posts where you throw in taglines that aren't really aligned with reality.

05-30-2017 , 06:16 PM

#1266

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

Your point was you know about stuff and pointed to an article that showed zero evidence of it.

You make these silly posts where you throw in taglines that aren't really aligned with reality.

Noodle's point was a good one, because US missile defense testing is more relevant to Russia than to North Korea, even if it is nominally directed as a response to North Korea.

05-30-2017 , 06:25 PM

#1267

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Noodle's point was a good one, because US missile defense testing is more relevant to Russia than to North Korea, even if it is nominally directed as a response to North Korea.

The missile tower **** goes back to either Bush or very early Obama. The Russians essentially did the same **** but on the opposite side of the country with Poland.

My point being is LK needs to stop with the fearmongering stuff like "russkies gonna be mad about n. korean." The Russkies really don't care about North Korea as much as they're testing the waters or our nerves.

05-30-2017 , 06:31 PM

#1268

MrWookie

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If you think he said that the Russians were going to be mad about North Korea, then you are a bad reader who is mad at his own imagination.

05-30-2017 , 06:50 PM

#1269

Paul D

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He said the Russians weren't going to like it. Quit being asinine. The North Korean situation is predicated on US-Chinese relations.

05-30-2017 , 06:54 PM

#1270

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

He said the Russians weren't going to like it. Quit being asinine. The North Korean situation is predicated on US-Chinese relations.

And what was the "it?"

05-30-2017 , 07:07 PM

#1271

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

And what was the "it?"

Missile defense testing.

You are accusing me of bad reading, but you're not even giving thought about how the Chinese have reacted to our missile tests.

EDITL Which is the point. However the Russkies react, China's actually the actor who matters. So you shouldn't fearmonger with allusions to Russkie displeasure.

05-30-2017 , 07:13 PM

#1272

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

And the Russians not liking our missile defenses is not predicated on our Chinese or North Korean relationships.

05-30-2017 , 07:19 PM

#1273

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbrochu

Well Seinfeld was pretty shaky the first few episodes.

05-30-2017 , 07:23 PM

#1274

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

And the Russians not liking our missile defenses is not predicated on our Chinese or North Korean relationships.

That's besides the point.

The Russians have little control over how the North Korean situation will be handled. It's fearmongering. If you don't understand why trying to spook people about the Russkies is bad, I guess there's nothing to really discuss.

05-30-2017 , 07:38 PM

#1275

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul D

No, it was his whole point.

But wait, maybe I am mistaken. Perhaps it's the case that the missile defense system that had the Russians upset in the 2013 article was only capable of shooting down Russian missiles, and this new one is only capable of shooting down North Korean ones. If that is the case, then I understand your insistence that Russia can only be upset by this system by way of our relationship with North Korea.

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