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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
i, for one, am listening.
Now? Are you really? Because you sure didn't seem to be several months ago. If you really are listening now, what actions are you willing to take? Because you punted more than the Buffalo Bills several months ago.
I'm sure this mass shooting hits home with you. It's frightening to me as well, but I do not come from a Jewish family, so I cannot have quite the same perspective as you on this shooting.
It should be clear to you, the administrator of an internet forum which, though waning in traffic/userbase, this forum still has a wide reach. The posts that are made on the forums are there for the entire world to see, and the communities which are allowed to develop on internet forums such as this can have wide reaching impact into the "real", analog world.
Imagine the type of conversation that would be going on right now on this very site if Poliltics 7.whitepower had been allowed to stay open, and all the deplorables had remained active in "discussing" politics. We just had multiple assassination attempts by a nutjob MAGA Florida man. There would have been many people in P7 calling it a false flag. We just had a synagogue shooting driven by pure white nationalist hatred of Jews. There would have been more assertions of false flags, and expressions of anti semitism.
The reason you took the action you did, when you did, in 86ing the forum is because the almighty dollar drove you to. The threat of advertisers being informed of the digusting content that was allowed to fester on this site and pulling ads was the final straw. It wasn't a no-brainer moral decision. It wasn't an administrative paradigm of forum federalism. You made yourself very clear that you're a "forum's rights!" kind of guy. If the mods allow it, it's not your problem, and you're not going to do a damn thing about it.
Maybe if you hop on over to places like gab, or voat, and look at the kind of content there, and then look at the fact that the synaguge shooter, and MAGA bomber were both deeply involved in such communities, you'll come to realise that you have responsibilities to a lot more people than you previously thought.
Online communities like reddit, twitter, 4chan, voat, facebook, twoplustwo, gaia online, cheifs planet, they are all open to the world in terms of registration/users, but also eyes. If you had allowed Politics7.whitepower to fester, you could have found yourself in the positon of trying to figure out what the hell to do about one of your users that just commited an atrocity in the analog world.
Now, several months ago when the future of P7, and its direction of modding was being debated, you punted the football very hard on transgender folks. It seemed to me that things like outwardly calling black men and women ******s, or expressing antisemetism, were taboo and would be dealt with at the administrative level. However, trans folks got the big "meh, forum's rights!". Maybe if you had a trans family member, you would have felt differently. And maybe once these nut jobs start slaughtering trans men and women like they just did to Jewish people who you might feel more of an affinity towards, you'll come to realize that "forum's rights" is ****ing nonsense, and you'll come to the shocking realizationi that a federalist, hard line stance against hatred towards any and ALL minorities is what you should do as the administrator of an internet forum with a very wide reach into the real world.