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March LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of March?

Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III

3 5.77%

John Kelly

5 9.62%

Kellyanne Conway

1 1.92%

Rex Tillerson

7 13.46%

Jared Kushner

13 25.00%

Ben Carson

11 21.15%

Gary Cohn

5 9.62%

Ryan Zinke

1 1.92%

Rod Rosenstein

4 7.69%

Write-in

2 3.85%

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03-19-2018 , 01:09 PM

#801

Namath12

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Originally Posted by lycosid

The simpler explanation is that the founders devised a system to give outsize influence to slave states. It was never conceived as some theoretical ideal of good governance.

Yeah that was the outcome. More broadly, it was set up to protect the wealthy landowners from "factions" of "unpropertied classes" (Federalist 10 deals with it). The founders were clearly uninterested in direct democracy which is why we got legislative elections of Senators, the EC, etc which did not solely apply to slave states.

03-19-2018 , 01:22 PM

#802

Namath12

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This is pretty good

03-19-2018 , 02:32 PM

#803

Jiggymike

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She’s my rep, hope she leaves her seat for a failed Senate run and let’s a Dem take both seats. She’s got pretty good credentials and doesn’t act like a whackadoo but I’m still thinking that the Trump stink might take her down; there have been a number of anti-McSally ads already, mostly related to her voting to take away people’s healthcare. I can’t remember if the “Protect public lands” ads mentioned her by name.

03-19-2018 , 02:47 PM

#804

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The Atlantic has an article about Nancy Pelosi's time as leader of Democrats, with an interesting thesis: all she does is win, yet she's been one of the most reviled politicians of the last decade (even from her own side). And they have a pretty good guess as to why:

Quote:

Nancy Pelosi does her job about as well as anyone could. But because she’s a woman, she may not be doing it well enough.

...and it's supported by research:

Quote:

For a 2010 paper in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, the Yale researchers Victoria Brescoll and Tyler Okimoto showed study participants the fictional biographies of two state senators, identical except that one was named John Burr and the other Ann Burr. (I referred to this study in an October 2016 article for this magazine called “Fear of a Female President.”) When quotations were added that described the state senators as “ambitious” and possessing “a strong will to power,” John Burr became more popular. But the changes provoked “moral outrage” toward Ann Burr, whom both men and women became less willing to support.

...and other arguments are not that convincing:

Quote:

Not everyone agrees that Pelosi’s unpopularity is a function of gender. Some observers note that her Republican counterpart, Speaker Paul Ryan, is unpopular too: According to HuffPost’s poll aggregator, Americans disapprove of both Ryan and Pelosi by 20 percentage points. But Ryan’s unpopularity tracks his party’s, which Americans disapprove of by 23 points—whereas Pelosi’s disapproval margin is almost twice that of the Democratic Party as a whole. Others chalk up Pelosi’s image problems to her ideology (liberal) and home base (San Francisco). But Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, a liberal from Brooklyn, has a disapproval margin half as large as hers.

As the article notes, Pelosi features in anti-Democrat advertising several times more often than any other Democratic figure in recent memory (Obama, Reid, Schumer). Could anyone possibly imagine those ads having the same effect if you flipped them the other way and put in Paul Ryan for Pelosi?

03-19-2018 , 03:02 PM

#805

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Book rec: Thanks, Obama: My Hopey, Changey White House Years, by a White House speechwriter named David Litt. Well-written book about his time on the campaign trail and in the White House, with a good balance of humor. Overall arc is that he fell in love with Obama during the 2007-2008 campaign, ended up working in DC and ultimately in the White House where he grew quite cynical, then left in 2016 with some mixture of cynicism and hope.

Basically scratched me right where I itch.

03-19-2018 , 03:16 PM

#806

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Minnesota grapples with racial disparities in student punishment, as the Trump administration considers rolling back rules about reviewing it

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Debbie York, the teacher who raised the issue in a Breitbart News article, was forced to retire after a first grader in her suburban Minnesota school pushed her, injuring her back and neck. The school district said she had violated privacy laws by speaking out about the incident.

The story inspired a Minnesota bill bolstering teachers’ authority to remove threatening students from their classrooms. Ms. York is advocating that the law go national, and that the Obama guidance be repealed.

“It’s not about arming teachers with guns; it is about arming them with the freedom to talk about troubled kids whose behavior not only needs to be assessed, but when the behavior puts others at risk of serious harm, intervention other than therapy,” Ms. York said.

lol this woman got ****ing wrecked by a first grader. Meanwhile, here's how teachers like her tend to think of the kids they teach:

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Bernadeia Johnson, a former Minneapolis schools superintendent, launched her own review of discipline referrals for kindergarten boys after the federal government began investigating her district. The review was revealing, she said. The descriptions of white children by teachers included “gifted but can’t use his words” and “high strung,” with their actions excused because they “had a hard day.”

Black children, she said, were “destructive” and “violent,” and “cannot be managed.”

Quote:

Federal investigators found that a black second-grade student was suspended for one day for poking another student with a pencil, but a white second grader who threw a rock that hit another student and broke a teacher’s sunglasses was not. The white student was allowed to work off the cost of the sunglasses by helping the teacher at lunch for several days.

03-19-2018 , 03:28 PM

#807

dth123451

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Counterpoint: Pelosi sucks

03-19-2018 , 03:36 PM

#808

ScreaminAsian

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yeah i hate her shrill hysterical refusal to be a sex object

03-19-2018 , 03:46 PM

#809

Loki

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Quote:

an interesting thesis: all she does is win

Did you say interesting, or completely devoid of any reality-based merit?

03-19-2018 , 04:38 PM

#810

Huehuecoyotl

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This week's chapo trap house was extremely good.

03-19-2018 , 04:42 PM

#811

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I'm not in love with Pelosi, but haven't seen reasons why she isn't an order 8f magnitude better than Feinstein or Schumer.

03-19-2018 , 05:22 PM

#812

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

Did you say interesting, or completely devoid of any reality-based merit?

Here's some reality you might have noticed if you bothered reading

Quote:

She’s been keeping it in line for more than a decade. In 2005, George W. Bush launched his second presidential term with an aggressive push to partially privatize Social Security. For nine months, Republicans demanded that Democrats admit the retirement system was in crisis and offer their own program to change it. Pelosi refused. Democratic members of Congress hosted more than 1,000 town-hall meetings to rally opposition to privatization. That fall, Republicans backed down, and Bush’s second term never recovered.

In 2009, Pelosi persuaded deficit-wary Blue Dog Democrats to back Barack Obama’s stimulus package, and it passed without a single Republican vote. The following year, when Rahm Emanuel, then the White House chief of staff, suggested scaling back health-care reform after the Democrats’ surprise Senate loss in Massachusetts, Pelosi insisted that Obama maintain his goal of universal coverage. She enraged her pro-choice allies by allowing a vote on an amendment prohibiting women insured through the law’s health-care exchanges from receiving government-subsidized abortions. But that gave antiabortion Democrats cover to support the bill, which passed with nary a Republican vote.

These victories led Thomas Mann, who studies Congress at the Brookings Institution, to call Pelosi the “strongest and most effective speaker of modern times.” And even after being relegated to minority leader when Republicans took the House in 2010, she kept winning legislative fights. In the summer of 2015, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee and the Republican Party launched a mammoth lobbying campaign to kill Obama’s nuclear agreement with Iran. Pelosi quickly secured the votes to prevent Republicans from overturning the agreement, thus checkmating the deal’s foes.

In addition to being a masterful legislative tactician, the 77-year-old Pelosi is, in Politico’s words, “the most successful nonpresidential political fundraiser in U.S. history.”

03-19-2018 , 05:39 PM

#813

lycosid

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One of these days I'm going to read something positive about Rahm Emanuel, I'm sure of it.

03-19-2018 , 05:41 PM

#814

Loki

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the most successful nonpresidential political fundraiser in U.S. history

Her party was broke and had to take loans from Hillary, somehow the most succesful fundraiser in history. Wat?

I don’t deny she's had two victories in her career. I’m just saying, and perhaps this is results oriented thinking, that the party is a mess and Dems don’t hold any power. Her two victories, contrasted with this, don’t seem that monumental.

03-19-2018 , 06:08 PM

#815

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

This is pretty good

I guess only Americans count as 'lives'.

03-19-2018 , 06:20 PM

#816

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Loki

I don’t deny she's had two victories in her career.

The quote that I spoonfed you after you didn't bother clicking the article the first time describes four. You are so ****ing bad at this.

03-19-2018 , 06:36 PM

#817

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

I'm not in love with Pelosi, but haven't seen reasons why she isn't an order 8f magnitude better than Feinstein or Schumer.

Pretty much how I feel as well.

03-19-2018 , 06:39 PM

#818

simplicitus

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https://twitter.com/davidminpdx/stat...45336164499459

03-19-2018 , 08:37 PM

#819

ScreaminAsian

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03-19-2018 , 08:41 PM

#820

grando1.0

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Holy ****

03-19-2018 , 09:03 PM

#821

microbet

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That cartoon is pretty good. In not-so-good news a driverless Uber ran over someone and killed them today.

03-19-2018 , 10:16 PM

#822

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Originally Posted by microbet

That cartoon is pretty good. In not-so-good news a driverless Uber ran over someone and killed them today.

From what brief coverage I saw, the accident was unavoidable (pedestrian stepped into traffic from a median). But still not a good event if you're bullish on driverless cars.

03-19-2018 , 10:24 PM

#823

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Originally Posted by spidercrab

From what brief coverage I saw, the accident was unavoidable (pedestrian stepped into traffic from a median). But still not a good event if you're bullish on driverless cars.

A human driver would probably have a big advantage over AI in recognizing that the thing on the median is a person and that they are probably there because they are trying to cross the street.

I'm bullish on driverless cars though. I figure they'll be better than what we have now with everyone driving while on their phone, surfing the web, doing email etc.

03-19-2018 , 10:54 PM

#824

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Originally Posted by microbet

A human driver would probably have a big advantage over AI in recognizing that the thing on the median is a person and that they are probably there because they are trying to cross the street.

The car in question had a human operator backup on board. Evidently (s)he didn't anticipate anything going wrong.