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Buying browsing histories from internet providers is ****ed up. Nobody would look good if their browsing history was e-mailed to their employer. Doesn't matter how innocent the sites you visited are.

They promised. How reassuring. And if they break their promise, they have monopolies in their respective regions, so the only way to opt out is to have no internet.

Whereas, if I want to opt out of google, I simply use StartPage (same search results as google) or DuckDuckGo, I block Google Analytics, and I don't use Gmail. Google doesn't own the entire internet, whereas the ISP can track me everywhere on the internet.

But you're right that we can't opt out NSA spying, and I guess until someone is indefinitely detained for saying, "Trump has small hands" on an internet forum, people won't be angry enough about the NSA, because they won't understand why privacy matters in a democracy.

None of that is a good comparison....Maybe see if you can just explain your position? I understand most English sentences (I'm a native speaker), and keep a dictionary handy in case I don't. No need to use inapplicable analogies (does anyone really want to spend the next 50 posts arguing if your analogy was fitting, seems like a waste of time).

It's bad because aggregating and selling all of your personal data is bad, even if other sites may already be doing it. It also continues a trend of reversing positive trends started by the previous administration.

But that's not what this is...:

I literally live in the woods and have two broadband services to choose from, and numerous satellite internet services. Back when I lived in the suburbs I had a host of options. And according to that VOX article, I can use a VPN to protect my data as well, without changing providers.

OK, agreed - it is easier to stop using Google.

Weird that people care more about advertisers than they do about the power of the government, right?

If some companies can share certain personal data that I provided them when interacting with their respective websites, I should not be upset that the local monopolist can share all of my data obtained when interacting with any website.

I've had Time Warner cable for internet for about a year now. How the hell do I opt out of them selling my browsing history? Not really getting anywhere with this: http://help.twcable.com/policies.html

Are they selling it? The VOX article said that it hasn't been an issue.

Strawman alert. Or is this another one of your "but you guys aren't talking about it 24/7!!!!!11" rants?

This is going well. I'm logged into my account and can't find any way to opt out of anything.

Would I know if they are? What if they sell it to Cambridge Analytica and now Bannon can use it against his political enemies. Do you know how powerful a weapon that would be?

What if they sell it to some company that gets hacked and the whole thing gets dumped online somewhere?

Use a VPN or if you're really concerned use a VPS.

suzzer,

The VOX article said ISPs aren't selling data. The opt out option was "if they do sell data in the future, you'll be able to opt out".

Guess you better get all the fetish porn videos you can before it's too late.

The awesome thing is that this is literally Taso's argument, yet he claims to be staunchly anti-government.

I live in the suburbs and also have 2 (Comcast and Verizon), but something tells me both of those will be among the ISP's selling customer data. As well as AT&T and whatnot.

Maybe one ISP will advertise itself as the only one who doesn't sell your data, but why should we have to rely on that?

Having your ISP sell your data is like having someone track everywhere you go IRL, everything you buy, read, watch, do, say, and then selling that info. That's the sort of thing that should be illegal.

Vpn subscriptions cost money. Not letting ISP's do this to begin with costs nothing.

I thought the privacy thing screwed companies that wanted to do business with European companies because we are so far away from the privacy policies in the EU?

That's a huge assumption and is a great example of the libertarian criticism of government.

Just like how the military really doesn't know what the effect of their next drone strike will be, and cannot know, and cannot predict the resulting blowback, governments have no idea what their regulation's effect will be.

What if selling anonymous data to advertisers enables ISPs to operate at a higher profit margin (not really a big "if" there). What if that makes it so more people invest in various internet options (satellite for example) and that results in improved satellite internet options, or lowers the price of satellite internet, and creates more competition?

Think of regulations like an iceberg - you only see the little top of it, but underneath the surface there's so much that you don't (and can't) know about. You may think it costs nothing, but you have no idea.

Golly geewillikers, I should let the local monopolist do what they will because it might result in the greater good? Hmmmmmmmmmm











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It's Real World: Regulations

You can guess at data to "enhance" what you have but there is no way to enhance the actial data you have with magic. The problem with CSI enhance is it went beyond using captured data. Which makes it impossible not just pushed into the future.

I don't want to in any way endorse Taso's posting, which is bad, but a lot of the panic about this bill is extremely disingenuous. The bill doesn't actually change anything, it just vetoes a prospective change that was put in place to combat a problem that, as far as I'm aware, does not actually exist yet. Maybe it's a good idea to have the rules in place as a precaution, but talking about how Cambridge Analytica is going to get your search history is nonsense. (Also they could buy it from google or just have Russia put malware on your computer!)

Bridget Kelly, former Chris Christie aide, got sentenced 18 months for her role in bridgegate.

It only didn't exist because of what is being taken away and a democratic majority FCC.

This is a big deal and this is the topic of the iceberg for Americans getting full on screwed by isps in concert with the FCC and congress in the next four years.

Isps are absolutely going to start collecting and monetizing this information. It's not like they have to tell you.

Will the government need a warrant to purchase data on every American, or since it will just be for sale will they simply buy it and not have to worry about any legal issues?