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Old 03-03-2017, 10:33 AM   #76
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Has anyone ever seen stats on percent of people worse off than their parents (and hence themselves when they were kids)? "Worse off" should probably include some measure of security.

It seems like that is something more noticeable to a person than inequality. When median income goes flat, it's a lot. No one has to look at a chart or know Mark Zuckerberg's net worth to know that they are worse off than when they were a kid.

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Old 03-03-2017, 10:36 AM   #77
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That's precisely who's voting for trump.
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:38 AM   #78
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Has anyone ever seen stats on percent of people worse off than their parents (and hence themselves when they were kids)? "Worse off" should probably include some measure of security.

It seems like that is something more noticeable to a person than inequality.
That is one kind of way to measure inequality.
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Has anyone ever seen stats on percent of people worse off than their parents (and hence themselves when they were kids)? "Worse off" should probably include some measure of security.

It seems like that is something more noticeable to a person than inequality. When median income goes flat, it's a lot. No one has to look at a chart or know Mark Zuckerberg's net worth to know that they are worse off than when they were a kid.
Obviously depends heavily on whether "people" means "people" or "Americans."

I do feel like I have seen some numbers on this recently for Americans, but I can't remember where... I'll see if I can dredge it up.
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Only 50 percent of kids born in the 1980s are earning more than their parents did at the same age, according to a new study that puts most of the blame on the narrow distribution of economic gains.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...equality-grows
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Here's to hoping this is the month we get to see Trump jerking off to prostitutes peeing on him.
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Old 03-03-2017, 12:56 PM   #82
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Old 03-03-2017, 01:08 PM   #83
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Trump may have nominated himself for the nobel peace price.
peace though strength

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Old 03-03-2017, 01:26 PM   #84
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Has anyone ever seen stats on percent of people worse off than their parents (and hence themselves when they were kids)? "Worse off" should probably include some measure of security.

It seems like that is something more noticeable to a person than inequality. When median income goes flat, it's a lot. No one has to look at a chart or know Mark Zuckerberg's net worth to know that they are worse off than when they were a kid.
My Mom bought a 4-bedroom house on a large corner lot in a nice neighborhood, good school district, centrally-located part of KC for $30k in the late 70s. I think she was making like $20k/year at the time doing admin stuff for the KC Metro bus company. She had no degree and almost no college.

That **** is never coming back.

That house stayed in our family until my uncle died about 12 years ago. Such a great house. Had a park with a public pool one block away. That pool was my baby sitter. Unfortunately no one knew what sunscreen was in the 70s apparently.

And the neighborhood in the meantime got rediscovered. It would be worth $300-ish now I guess. Maybe more. I know some hot neighborhoods in KC where smaller houses are going for $500k+.

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Old 03-03-2017, 01:40 PM   #86
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Main problem with 401k is you have no idea how long you will live, whereas with a pooled retirement plan you can predict, on average, when people will die and therefore how much money you'll need.

Secondary problem is people are retarded and almost always save way too little.
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Freedom!!!

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Old 03-03-2017, 02:31 PM   #88
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Could really use a wall right there imo.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:01 PM   #89
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My Mom bought a 4-bedroom house on a large corner lot in a nice neighborhood, good school district, centrally-located part of KC for $30k in the late 70s. I think she was making like $20k/year at the time doing admin stuff for the KC Metro bus company. She had no degree and almost no college.

That **** is never coming back.

That house stayed in our family until my uncle died about 12 years ago. Such a great house. Had a park with a public pool one block away. That pool was my baby sitter. Unfortunately no one knew what sunscreen was in the 70s apparently.

And the neighborhood in the meantime got rediscovered. It would be worth $300-ish now I guess. Maybe more. I know some hot neighborhoods in KC where smaller houses are going for $500k+.
My MinLaw's house was bought for $35k in 1973 and is worth more than $2M now.
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Edit: YouTube tag not working?

When politics gets me down I watch Mr. Show

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Just so everyone sees this Internet gold...
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:36 PM   #92
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I never understood why so many of you who look forward to olds dying out are so pro SS and Medicare.
Here's an old thread that I thought was pretty good that attempts to answer this question.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...sophy-1029040/
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Ars Technica has a story about what drives beliefs in science. Apparently conservatives all watch a lot of CSI, because they think forensic analysis is the strongest, most precise science there is.
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Enhance!
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:01 PM   #95
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I looked around this and I will say that cops make too much money. Their salaries should be cut in half and probably half of them laid off and probably a quarter as much spent on their equipment.
Nope.

Equipment costs are absolutely through the roof. No questions asked, even small towns have SWAT vehicles and **** which is insane.

But easily biggest financial drain on the justice system stems from having law enforcement who are underpaid/undertrained. Pay them more and you get better applicants who wouldn't **** up easy things in the first place, train them more and you get cops who do things right and thus have less litigation.
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Nope.

Equipment costs are absolutely through the roof. No questions asked, even small towns have SWAT vehicles and **** which is insane.

But easily biggest financial drain on the justice system stems from having law enforcement who are underpaid/undertrained. Pay them more and you get better applicants who wouldn't **** up easy things in the first place, train them more and you get cops who do things right and thus have less litigation.
Ok, fire the bottom 80 percent and pay the remaining 20% twice as much. Outfit them like British cops, i.e. generally w/o guns.

There's a joke that goes like, in heaven the cops are English, the cooks are Italian and the engineers are German. In hell the cops are German, the cooks are English and the engineers are Italians.

I don't think that joke's really fair to Italian engineers though. And nowadays you should probably make the cops in hell American.
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Enhance!
Interestingly enough, the ol CSI 'enhance' jokes will soon be obsolete as that is becoming a very real technology.
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:36 PM   #98
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Dan believes you can make up data that isn't there like in CSI yet doesn't think we can tell he is lying about his political beliefs...
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that tech nerd stories about photo enhancement becoming a real thing are 95% misleading clickbait bull****, and the 5% that is true is obvious and unsurprising.
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Dan believes you can make up data that isn't there like in CSI yet doesn't think we can tell he is lying about his political beliefs...
I guess it doesn't count as not there when it turns out it is, but didn't some MIT folk find out a way to extract sound from still images or something crazy like a year ago?
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