What equipment do you have?

Nothing fancy, skillets and pans and a stove. I don't cook a lot, and I'm just trying to get into it.

Alton brown reverse sear. Thick ribeye or filet.

Link in the OP pretty much has you covered: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=4513

If you have a meat thermometer, aim for ~115-118 F for the first stage, and 125-135 F depending on your preference for the final.

Thanks! I failed pretty hard to get Med rare, but the sear was ok. I need to practice a bit more, and get the proper equipment. The only pan I had that was big enough was very thin and it didn't seem to hold heat very well, so I was worried that it wasn't cooking and put it back on the stove. :-/

So, well-done, like a true Trump steak!

Had a hankering for a steak on way back from client depo. prep on Tues. Stopped at Outback. The 23oz ribeye was ok, though it had some tough parts. The $12 lobster add-on they were advertising was more like a big jumbo shrimp, or two of them. $55 (after tax and tip) for a steak and a lil lobster and a coke seems a bit steep, and I didn't even get a bloomin onion.

It was properly med-rare, as ordered, but if they couldn't get that right they shouldn't be in business.

Yeah, for best results use cast iron or a good quality stainless steel pan like All-Clad. And get a thermapen or thermopop.

Money2Burn,

I go with the let come to room temperature while heavily salted. Rinse and dry and then I use the oven to bring my steaks to the preferred temp. Then Let rest a bit after getting it where you like it, and then giving it a hot seer on both sides. Same general idea, but pretty failsafe and def a preferred method for ease if cooking a number of steaks for people.

...or you could ignore people like Dan who seem to have gotten a few fundamentals right but still come up with dumb ideas like over-salting and rinsing a piece of meat.

Eh, I dunno I mean I should have maybe clarified that its not the best play on a great piece of meat, but I find it improves medium quality steaks enough to do it. But okay, you manly steak-bro you.

Also to be clear, coarse kosher salt, not table salt.

Are people actually ignorant about Savage or just trolling? He has a PhD in ethnomedicine(???) from Berkley and used to go on naked swimming trips with Allen Ginesberg. It's not something that he tries to hide from his audience.

Hippies-turned-conservitards are the absolute nut low.

I confess to being almost entirely ignorant about Savage. I mean Monica Crowley has a PhD from Columbia, but it's plagerized. Dr. Laura presumably has a PhD or MD from somewhere, probably Trump U. Gorka or whatever also seems to have a PhD, probably from somewhere in Ljubljana.

Still, hard to get a Berkeley PhD while being a total moran, but that's the thing with right wing grifters, it pays well enough that if you're in for a penny you may as well be in for a pound. I've heard others, like Joe S, say that Hannity generally considered his persona an act, at least back in the day. Problem is that you may accidentally fool some idiots, like say the future president and most of his staff, with said act. BTW, Hannity makes like $30M/yr, as did Rush before him.

I am under no allusions that the world was ever much different; there likely has always been some distance between the public persona of civic officials and whatever their true selves are, even if we admit such a concept ("your sincere self") has any meaning. And Limbaugh and Savage and Hannity don't even (yet) rise to officials, although maybe that day is in our future too. They're just entertainers and a certain part of the ruse is that these personas are scripted, they're crafted.

But that's sort of my point about professional wrestling, in many ways far more scripted and meant to be taken far less seriously -- also meaningfully or not, one of Donald Trump's other favorite forms of entertainment in addition to cable news and AM radio -- wrestlers in many ways go to far greater lengths to maintain the script off camera. Savage isn't even trying!

And I'll just point out yet again that Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh sell rage at snobby, effete liberals and their haute culture while spending their free time dining with toy poodles in Silicon Valley. Whether he is formally hiding this from his audience, I have no idea. He probably isn't! Yet again I think it proves the point: that these guys credibly peddle rage against the cultural elites and champion themselves of an old-fashioned masculine virtue while making millions and taking their manicured water dogs out for a night on the town (as I said, check out the photos in the Daily Mail, Savage literally has a bow in the dog's ****ing hair) has to be considered an astounding curiosity of human nature.

Hate to break it to you, but the time is already here.

http://jasonlewis.house.gov/

Jason Lewis, conservative radio talkshow host, won in 2016

add: JL is like the Rand Paul of talk radio.

re: DVaut's point.

Agree. But of course one needs to keep in mind that a similar charade is taking place across the political aisle, though -maybe- not to such a rank degree, but still quite enough to find abhorrent.

And you know, I can appreciate that some might read this and say, well DVaut1, you are probably drawing too much from this anecdote. And surely that is true.

But sometimes these tiny anecdotes -- windows into the backstage behind the curtain -- have the most explanatory power. And this one is just sort of amusing and allows me to make my point with a certain bit of flourish.

Still, I can appreciate it will be contentious that you can say much about our political pathologies based on the fact Michael Savage, icon of white male rage against pervasive feminization of America and cutural elites, dines in public with a toy poodle.

But I persist: this is truly instructive. ecriture d'adulte is likely correct none of this is hidden, that the audience for this stuff surely knows Limbaugh and Hannity and Savage are multi millionaires many times over and probably spend part of their vast fortunes primping their dogs with fashion accessories so they look nice when they head out for a night in San Francisco. One of my frequent tropes on this forum is that while the angry right wing audience is stupid, they're not that stupid.

Like I'm not a Sean Hannity viewer either but even in my limited time watching him, I think he's admitted he's neighbors with Billy Joel and Angelie Jolie in Lloyd Harbor NY. Not hiding it either.

So remember Hannity lives on an estate in like the richest city in the country with celebrities. Remember Rush Limbaugh makes 9 figures a year and owns a beachfront mansion in Palm Beach. Bear in mind, too, that Michael Savage dates his toy poodle the next time we're all told the real problem with liberals and Democrats appealing to angry white America is that they're insufficiently sincere about the crippling afflictions that face modern white male America, what with all the ladies and blacks getting the new economy service jobs and college degrees and the millennial participation trophies making us all soft girly men, that liberals live in a make-believe coastal bubble and should really get out and appreciate the lived experience of the working class white guy to see their suffering. Question what the **** these people are REALLY talking about, how much any of THAT criticism is valid, or genuine, or sincere, when the political heros of the middle American angry white guy are Michael Savage, who takes his toy poodle to dinner and Donald Trump, the guy with his name on a skyscrapper in Manhattan.

Put more simply yet still: these guys are not selling sincerity. They are not selling genuineness. Limbaugh and Hannity and Savage don't live the rugged masculine middle American life anymore than Paris Hilton or Barack Obama do. What they sell, precisely and exactly, is flattery. Remember that the next time liberals are asked to show a little more humility, be a little less sheltered, to show a little more empathy and remember instead what the angry white guys really consume, what they really want. It ain't sincerity.

But I think this missed the point. I ain't even mad about the charade and like, dogs are fun. Hypocrisy is part of life. I think we can say some trenchant stuff about Hannity, Limbaugh, Savage, Milo -- the whole menagerie of right-wing idiots who sell hate for profit and live like royalty.

My point isn't so much about hypocrisy. It's about what the actual commodity for sale is here. What angry white people really want out of politics. And what the right-wing all star class is really selling them vis a vis what we're told is the great failing of the left to win them over.

Remember one of the in-vogue criticisms of liberals and the left right now is that they live in a bubble, that too many Democratic politicians are frigid dyke types like Hillary Clinton or jewy northest liberal Bernie Sanders, what about a strapping white Christian guy? They've really lost touch with the suffering white guys, who have been left behind and forgotten about out there in middle America because Chinese jobs and participation medals have really sapped us of our masculine vitality. Until Democrats can just speak more earnestly and sympathetically to that, to really emote to white guys, ideally from other nice white guys with a strong jaw -- well Democrats are truly lost. Just too much distance from real white guy problems.

But remember your standard fare right-wing radio hosts, the Fox News pundit class, and real estate baron Presidents who are the heros of the modern American white guy: turns out they have all the same bankrolls and cultural tics and zip codes as the heartless rich liberal class. What gives? Merits an explanation.

Like all things in our politics, there's a certain polite fiction going on here. Democrats are being told to humble themselves while rich white dudes who enjoy fine dining in San Francisco with toy poodles empower themselves telling white people make-believe stories about Muslims and immigrants and feminazis. You wonder if the rich coastal elites aren't failing to capture America's heart because of their wealth, their zip codes, and their dog breeds.

The polite fiction is this: what the left is really being asked to do, really, is tell white guys all the flattering lies the other side does. It ain't sincerity and genuineness or lived realities. A liberal with a working class lifestyle in Ashtabula Ohio ain't gonna win these people over unless they do what Michael Savage does: tell them scary stories about freakshow liberals and lazy blacks and violent Muslims. It doesn't matter how liberals live, or where they live, or how much money they have, or how their lives don't mesh with the culture mores of the white working class. Michael Savage eats dinner with his poodle!

Liberals are being asked to genuflect to the angry white guy sensibilities, nothing more. Michael Savage's effete lifestyle is but a very, very small anecdote that proves the point. He didn't win an audience with these people, earn their trust and admiration, getting them to hang on their every word by living with austerity and humility in Bumble **** Flyover Country. Neither did the President. It won't work for liberals either.

Yeah I dunno, pretty sure you are the one here missing the point. But whatever false narratives and reality you need to construct in order to justify pathetic condescension and keep the blinders on to the nature of our true political landscape. Then again how much insight and intelligent discourse can one really expect from an upper middle class white guy living in his own bubble?

Fictions indeed.

Actually, think Dvaut's post is probably the most insightful I've read in the last month. Just tell em they're great Americans and the opposite of deplorable and you're in. That's a lot closer to what Bernie does than most dems. (Problem with dems is they also need an enemy to loathe and fear, and creating those is the GOPs most refined skill.) Never mind policy, which is either symbolic (Muslim ban!) or too complex to argue about.

Here is Dan again, who is a liberal he claims before most posts, chiming in to remind us democrats are bad too

So furious that you would disparage people who could basically be termed "anti liberals". Hastendan is the worst poster ever.... I want to make a parody account but am not clever enough to know where to begin. A guy who loudly proclaims to be a conservative but then constantly proclaims the need for higher tax rates?

It is called not being a partisan hack, corporatist shill and having a grasp on the reality of the American political landscape.

Dem establishment clowns failing to be critical of neoliberal clowns is what got DWS as DNC Chair, Hillary Clinton as our nominee and as a result President Trump and a complete loss in the House, Senate, and state legislatures across the country.

But by all means, attack me for pointing out partisan hackery. Been working out fantastic for this country.

I'd snap-accept a $9-12k supplement from some wealthy Nigerians doin' science.

That's been the scenario envisioned for the past 200 years. It's only recently we even had a word for 'robot' though.