I agree with this guy.

You should have listened to your mum more.

Fortunately, or rather more unfortunately



Didnt quite bring down the VIPaedo establishment ring, but still, reserves a fair bit more integrity than most who were around the BBC at that time.

Not much music but I recently watched the unshown pilot for a satirical news show (NTNON) from 1979

contains the line at 9mins 50s "A hospital porter can earn £5000 pw Ask Jimmy Saville"

Looks like they tried to slip it in without the ptb noticing



It's also quite good although it's not music and probably only enjoyable by people from ~my place in time and space.

man, familiar with the johnny rotten stuff but i had never heard that hospital porter joke. that's so ****ed up. most of the 'everybody knew and no one did anything' stuff around savile is like miscellaneous 'rumours' about him being dodgy/a perv/a creep/a necrophile, but that joke implies direct knowledge of what he was doing and how he was doing it

JFC I remember watching that on Top Of The Pops when I was a kid.

lol u conspi******, I mean Jesus christ, who would even entertain such stupidity?

wat kind of warped brain is it, that thinks everything contrived.

I swear to God. Conspiracy theorists are worse than murderers. At least murderers commit and act. Conspiracy filth just find purpose in questioning every ****ing thing that happens

The truth lies somewhere in between these 2 poles of absurdity. The Pistols for instance were manufactured to appeal to a particular audience, the presentation was a marketing tool. This is not to say there was nothing genuine in the music. Anything that is sold on the market is subject to the pressures of the market, resistance is commodified at the point of sale in other words.

And they were part of a London underground-ish "movement" championing a back to basics style of music that started with bands like Dr Feelgood in the early seventies pub rock scene, and grew to take in some of the nihilism of the trash/glam sensibilities of the New York Dolls and Stooges.

Though the Pistols were smarter and more streetwise than their contemporaries, and eschewed any formal reliance on R&B, unlike the sped-up R&B of bands like Eddie And The Hot Rods who were derided by the former.

The Louis Theroux documentary on Savile shows how easily he was able to take people in and deceive them. He was just a natural at it. He had to know that people were getting close to breaking the scandal open at one point but never seemed to lose his composure or let anything slip out.

The closest comparison America has to Savile is Harvey Weinstein though I'd argue the former was way, way worse than the latter. Also, Savile's actions appeared to be known to a wider range of people who were willing to orchestrate a coverup at very high levels within both the media and government.

Posting this in a more appropriate thread. Cool moment in hip hop history.

There is a testimony in one of the other documentaries, can't recall which, all on YT anyway, of a colleague of Savile who pretty much caught him in his caravan with kids. He reported this to the bbc and was basically told to shut up or we all lose our jobs. One from a survivor who said that he was first abused by his own father before being passed over to a ring and taken regularly to a brothel with other kids and just routinely abused by all kinds. Savile was a regular there and brought in other kids. There is no doubt in my mind that Savile was a pimp for establishment paedophiles, this was/is about much more than Savile.

The album came out 3 days ago. Odd that it wasn't released on CD: just digital and vinyl.

It's cool but at the same time you can hear the parts that almost sound as if they were written for Serj to sing but without him there's something missing. It's especially obvious in "Lives". I like the songs that divert from that sound most and there are plenty that do.

Daron shows his talent by playing all of the instruments on the albums and writing the songs by himself. Hope he spends more time diverting away from SOAD's style and experiments more.

musically this does nothing for me, but people who like black metal say it's pretty good black metal? idk, but the song titles are great

off the album 'Left of Cool' wat's left of cool politically? errrr



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