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07-16-2013 , 10:39 AM
You have the music thread in SMP (Science Maths and Philosophy). Can't see why it couldn't be here also. Planning to post Anarchy in the UK by the Sex Pistols next. Imagine the society critics of rap! Could widen somebody's perspective.


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07-16-2013 , 10:58 AM


Was the punk wave ("people expressing their political feelings") really planned in the backroom of a record store, as I've heard?

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07-16-2013 , 11:31 AM
07-16-2013 , 11:50 AM
NPR's Tiny Desk Concert is a good place to see some interesting bands.
07-16-2013 , 11:52 AM
07-16-2013 , 12:02 PM
07-16-2013 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
You have the music thread in SMP (Science Maths and Philosophy).
So, why do you need to spam music somewhere else?
07-16-2013 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
So, why do you need to spam music somewhere else?
"Spam" isn't the expression I would prefer to be used . There may be some value in lightening things up, in some isolated threads. Like the Late Tonight Shows. Slipping slope or not, you decide.

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07-16-2013 , 12:44 PM
been done
07-16-2013 , 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Low Key
Looks I'm owned, you may as well merge

This thread is hereby reported to Wookie.

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07-16-2013 , 04:29 PM
Oldy but a classic

07-17-2013 , 03:01 AM
I don't like low content music. That call me maybe song drive me nuts. And don't even get me started on Friday.
07-17-2013 , 02:40 PM
Instead of war on poverty
They got a war on drugs so the police can bother me

07-18-2013 , 08:23 AM
07-18-2013 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Was the punk wave ("people expressing their political feelings") really planned in the backroom of a record store, as I've heard?
Eh... if you actually want to know about it, read England's Dreaming by Jon Savage. Excellent history of the period.

Feel free to skip the excerpts from his teenage journal. The rest of it really is top notch, though.

07-14-2018 , 09:20 AM
I thought Mat had started a music thread a while ago but I couldn't find it so I am posting here. Anyway, this The Nightwatchman aka Tom Morello....

















07-14-2018 , 09:27 AM
07-14-2018 , 11:03 AM
Thought I'd crosspost this here since people were asking for politically-driven music:

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Originally Posted by eyebooger
All of this. Where the hell is the 2018 version of Rage Against The Machine? I want some politically charged rock that's ****ing angry.

RATM disbanded almost 20 years ago. Since then the best thing we've had in that regard is what? American Idiot?
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
RATM's Tom Morello has released several political albums under the moniker The Nightwatchman. I'll post some songs in the music thread.
Prophets of Rage is the former RATM band only with B Real and Chuck D as vocalists to replace Zach de la Rocha.



Also when System of a Down broke up (another great band with politically-driven songs), Daron Malakian created Scars on Broadway. Their politically driven songs are more subtle but still exist. They also aren't all about American politics as the band and its members are of Armenian descent so they cover quite a bit of that as well. Like this song "Lives".



Of course you have their less subtle songs such as "Dictator".



System's original lead singer, Serj Tankian, has a solo career. The music isn't quite as heavy as Scars on Broadway but is also political. This one, "Harakiri", is about how a capitalist economy destroys mother nature out of its own best interests.

07-14-2018 , 12:07 PM
Thanks for bumping this.

The Nightwatchman stuff is fine, but it's folk. There's definitely a ceiling on just how angry you can be with that sort of music. I'm looking more for something that will punch you in the face and scream "**** YOU".

Never could really get into either Scars on Broadway or Serj's solo stuff. Just reform System of a Down FFS.

The Prophets of Rage song was legit. I had only heard their song "Prophets of Rage", which didn't do much for me. "Un**** the World" is exactly the sort of stuff I was looking for.

Though it is depressing that the best thing we've come up with is a supergroup of 90s acts. Aren't there some people in their 20s and 30s that are pissed the **** off?
07-14-2018 , 12:26 PM
Daron said that most of the songs on SOB's upcoming album were written in 2012 and were actually gathering dust waiting for SOAD to make a new album. Once he saw that wasn't coming, he decided to release them with his band. When I listen to "Lives" and "Dictator", I can imagine that the songs were created with Serj singing in mind.

I'm definitely optimistic about their upcoming album which is coming out in 6 days.

As for Serj's solo stuff, it's really not that good imo. I found myself tuning out pretty quickly. I just think he wants to go his own way. Guess it's the complete opposite of selling out since SOAD would probably be way better for him financially even if it meant splitting the money with the other band members and sacrificing his artistic viewpoints.
07-14-2018 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Thanks for bumping this.

The Nightwatchman stuff is fine, but it's folk. There's definitely a ceiling on just how angry you can be with that sort of music. I'm looking more for something that will punch you in the face and scream "**** YOU".

When I first read the original comment about RATM I thought to myself there must be some bands out there making angry political music like among others Downset back in the day:






Sure, the musical style might have changed and it's Metalcore or a new form of punk music. Looking through my music collection I found almost nothing after the 90s. We couldn't get any decent music out of GWB and the Iraq War (except SOAD)? Maybe I am just too out of touch with modern music.



Is hiphop faring any better? Is there a modern day Public Enemy or NWA?


We had Childish Gambino's "This is America" and there is A Tribe called Quest's "We the people"


07-14-2018 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by plaaynde
Was the punk wave ("people expressing their political feelings") really planned in the backroom of a record store, as I've heard?
No it wasn't.

It was "planned" (if you go along with McLaren's version) or "happened" when he and Vivienne Westwood were looking for a house band for their clothes shop, a la Warhol's Velvet Underground a decade earlier, and thought it would be fun to put together a band from some of the characters who dropped into their shop in the Kings Road.

After failing to recruit Midge Ure as the singer (thankfully) when they chanced upon him, they settled on a working class kid brave enough to have green hair at a time when that would be more than sufficient to get a good random beating in the street, who "auditioned" by miming along to an Alice Cooper song on the shop's jukebox, named him after a description of the state of his teeth and Johnny Rotten was born.

Also, in before it gets chezzed uo with 2nd rate punk songs.

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07-14-2018 , 01:37 PM
Probably GOAT and in a better world it would be our national anthem

07-14-2018 , 01:39 PM
Some Yiddish anarchy

07-14-2018 , 02:00 PM
I used to listen to a radio station in the evenings of '76 that would play the usual class rock (which, being a young Who fan I generally liked) when one night this came on.

I'd never heard anything as fast and aggressive as this before, and it's no exaggeration to say that it totally blew me away and I managed to record most of it:






Also, this summed up the dreariness of teenage life in the UK, late 70's, an EP I'm pleased to say I still have.


      
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