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Old 05-27-2011, 09:43 AM   #51
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Re: Law and Order 2

Oh I thought I had posted this already but I just scrolled back and didn't see it.

Last week, friday afternoon we're at Junior's baseball game. I see the local news choppa passing overhead.

As we're leaving the game we pass a huge scene, cop cars everywhere, huge wreck, road blocked etc. I notice some of the cop cars are from Bartlett, which is odd because that's a suburb town pretty far from where the wreck was. So it was obvious this must have been a high speed chase that covered a pretty significant distance.

On the news that evening we got more details. The suspected crime that triggered this? Surely it was murder or rape or kidnapping, right?

Nope, it was shoplifting. Crab legs from a supermarket. And apparently this pursuit went through several residential neighborhoods, and the chase concluded about two blocks from a orthodox synagogue. And remember, this was late friday afternoon, the congregation was walking to services at the time. The crash ended in front of the home of a family that was literally walking out the door to go to services. It's basically a miracle that nobody was hurt.

Now, in between the shoplifting and the crash, however, there are some events that contributed to this.

* The suspects "threatened to kill" anyone that followed them out of the store.
* an officer (possibly a plainclothes detective) approached the suspects at a stop light a few blocks away, the suspects took off (and this is where the chase actually started)
* the day of the chase the news reported that the officer was struck by the suspects' vehicle (and this is apparently what the Bartlett PD used to justify their pursuit when they contacted the Memphis PD for permission to pursue into Memphis jurisdiction) but none of the reports since then have mentioned that.

The best part was in the newspaper a few days later, some guy wrote a letter to the editor pointing out how dangerous this was, and in the comments was this gem:

"you are Socialist that believe criminals should escape the law. My only regret was that the police were not firing their guns at the thieves. This is a typical response from a LIBERAL."

initial news footage: http://www.wmctv.com/story/14688293/...police-pursuit
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Old 05-27-2011, 01:54 PM   #52
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If there's one thing that I definitely associate with socialist regimes, it's being very lenient towards criminals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital...ublic_of_China
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Old 05-27-2011, 02:01 PM   #53
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Radley Balko now at The Huffington Post on the case where Arizona cops fired a bunch of rounds and killed a Marine while serving a warrant:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_867020.html

cliffs: Lots of the official story has changed. Coverup in progress. Jose Guerena didn't fire first (official claim) because the safety was still on his weapon. No evidence of wrongdoing by Geurena, or reason for the warrant. His relative died in a home invasion.

Video of the raid:



This is the one where they kept the paramedics away from him for more than an hour. Dead men don't testify.
Here is a really shameful part.
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Storie also defended the SWAT team's refusal to allow paramedics to access Guerena for more than hour. "They still don't know how many shooters are inside, how many guns are inside and they still have to assume that they will be ambushed if they walk in this house," Storie said.
earlier in the same piece
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They now acknowledge that not only did he not fire, the safety on his gun was still activated when he was killed. Guerena had no prior criminal record, and the police found nothing illegal in his home. After ushering out his wife and son, the police refused to allow paramedics to access Guerena for more than hour, leaving the young father to bleed to death, alone, in his own home.
It appears the went through the house and found the wife and child in the closet. Also since they were there, they would know the only shooters were outside the house. It is outrageous that these officers aren't currently being held awaiting trial for murder.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:05 AM   #54
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How did this happen, did they just show up at your house? I'm in NZ so just curious of what to look out for.
Pulled out of the line at mcdonalds lol.
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:21 AM   #55
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1. Dance at the Jefferson Memorial
2. ???
3. Profit Get arrested!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PDhjNF9eUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFQEbLyPSQ
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Old 05-30-2011, 02:55 AM   #56
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It appears the went through the house and found the wife and child in the closet. Also since they were there, they would know the only shooters were outside the house. It is outrageous that these officers aren't currently being held awaiting trial for murder.
These scumbags lucked out in that they didn't kill his wife and child and have a real media frenzy on their hands.
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Old 06-01-2011, 10:30 AM   #57
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1. Dance at the Jefferson Memorial
2. ???
3. Profit Get arrested!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PDhjNF9eUQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kFQEbLyPSQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Uyia...eature=related

Apparently dancing = protesting and protesting is illegal on federal parks. Funny. I thought the bill of rights applied everywhere in this country.

P.S. Thomas Jefferson is probably the President who would be the most outraged by this.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:00 AM   #58
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Cops: She asked to be arrested, then resisted

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A Delaware woman who demanded that state troopers take her to jail was later charged with resisting arrest, according to police. About 6 a.m. Saturday at the Super Lodge Motel, in New Castle, troopers responding to a complaint were approached by Teiera Rider, 20, who cursed at them while "demanding" to be taken to jail, police said.

When she refused to calm down, troopers said, they heeded her wishes and placed her under arrest.

But instead of going quietly, Rider allegedly kicked and spit at troopers as they did exactly what she'd asked them to do - arrest her.

Where does this story fall in the "Voluntary Interaction" argument?

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Old 06-07-2011, 10:32 AM   #59
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crazy ***** gonna crazy *****?
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:40 AM   #60
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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06...html?hpt=hp_t2

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An eyewitness to a fatal police shooting in Miami Beach last week claims police officers attempted to confiscate the video he filmed of the incident, and even crushed his phone underfoot in an attempt to destroy the recording.
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:44 AM   #61
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Looks bad imo
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Old 06-08-2011, 12:50 AM   #62
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2nd video and more info on that Memorial Day police shooting: http://www.miamibeach411.com/news/memorial-day-video2

And in other police news: Ottawa police try to shoot dog during raid, miss and instead hit man lying prone on the floor. Man sues for 7oo,ooo loonies.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:24 PM   #63
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Shocking the things that happen when you give a bunch of wanna-be cowboys a gun, badge, and the authority to be reckless, trigger-happy loons with basically no real consequences for all but the most egregious offenses and no accountability for how they treat people and conduct their job. Government failure at its finest.
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Old 06-09-2011, 04:09 PM   #64
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It was a highly stressed situation and perhaps police were thinking Benoit was holding a gun instead of a camera, but that still does not justify destroying the phone.
so he was going to step on a gun to destroy it? This paragraph makes zero sense. The only explanation is that he wanted it destroyed.
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:29 PM   #65
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lolz start around 0:30

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Old 06-13-2011, 12:42 AM   #66
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"ionized" metal bracelet is the first clue that the guy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:48 PM   #67
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Decided to go out at about 3:45 am Saturday night (technically early Sunday) to get some food...I keep odd hours.

Upon finding everything closed, big surprise, on my way home I get pulled over on these little backroads leading to my neighborhood. I'm totally not surprised, for some reason this little area is like a police state, there are always cops everywhere and I haven't really figured out why, there's little to no crime in my area so I guess they are just bored.

He gives me some made up reason of "failure to maintain lane" (totally bogus) but upon seeing that I am in my pajamas basically and haven't been drinking or anything he lets me go with a "warning."

Basically I was guilty of being out at an odd time and place, so he was gonna find a reason to stop me.
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:44 PM   #68
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Police officer in this one acts like my dog. Lets a bunch of bicyclists go by, but after a while he just can't resist himself anymore and has to take a swipe at one.

Once that's done you have to arrest the guy who filmed it.

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Old 06-14-2011, 07:17 PM   #69
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Decided to go out at about 3:45 am Saturday night (technically early Sunday) to get some food...I keep odd hours.

Upon finding everything closed, big surprise, on my way home I get pulled over on these little backroads leading to my neighborhood. I'm totally not surprised, for some reason this little area is like a police state, there are always cops everywhere and I haven't really figured out why, there's little to no crime in my area so I guess they are just bored.

He gives me some made up reason of "failure to maintain lane" (totally bogus) but upon seeing that I am in my pajamas basically and haven't been drinking or anything he lets me go with a "warning."

Basically I was guilty of being out at an odd time and place, so he was gonna find a reason to stop me.
This is so standard
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:45 PM   #70
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I'm totally not surprised, for some reason this little area is like a police state, there are always cops everywhere and I haven't really figured out why, there's little to no crime in my area so I guess they are just bored.
It's like this in the town next to me for some reason. There's no real crime in either town. Just two very similar quiet medium sized towns. In my town, the cops really don't do anything. Mostly they stand in front of road work/tree-trimming and direct traffic. Maybe they grab up 3-4 DUI's a month on the weekend nights. Beyond that, you wouldn't even know they existed.

In the town next to me, there are cops EVERYWHERE. Always have people pulled over, often with multiple cop cars. They're always out and about, cruising around downtown. I started doing some of my grocery shopping there in the past couple of years, and in any given week, I see more people pulled over there than I've seen in the last 5 years in my town. It's totally bizarre.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:34 AM   #71
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It's like this in the town next to me for some reason. There's no real crime in either town. Just two very similar quiet medium sized towns. In my town, the cops really don't do anything. Mostly they stand in front of road work/tree-trimming and direct traffic. Maybe they grab up 3-4 DUI's a month on the weekend nights. Beyond that, you wouldn't even know they existed.

In the town next to me, there are cops EVERYWHERE. Always have people pulled over, often with multiple cop cars. They're always out and about, cruising around downtown. I started doing some of my grocery shopping there in the past couple of years, and in any given week, I see more people pulled over there than I've seen in the last 5 years in my town. It's totally bizarre.
They are generating revenue to pay their salaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Rome,_Ohio
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Old 06-16-2011, 10:00 AM   #72
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Another murderer
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Old 06-16-2011, 11:52 AM   #73
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Well at least he was booked into jail. He wasn't charged with murder immediately, but at least he was taken into custody.

Edit to add: I didn't research it, but the comments indicate he was then indicted. I don't know of being arrested for a lower charge and then indicted has any meaning.
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Old 06-24-2011, 04:47 PM   #74
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http://www.boingboing.net/2011/06/22...ilmed-cop.html

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Old 06-24-2011, 05:04 PM   #75
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Cops should be able to do what ever they want. A police state is a safe state, where the state is safe, and since the state is the people, the people are safe. You should embrace cops who corrupt the law. Corrupting the law enables the state to extend their powers further to do more good. Listen to what you feel, not what you think.
Somebody recruit this guy for the part of snarky jackass ASAP!
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