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Police officer shoots a dog to protect himself. Dog was a 12 pound rat terrier. We have two dachshunds weighing 10 lbs each and the only people who have been afraid of them are 2 year olds. Everyone else laughs at the two dogs barking at them.

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In his official report, the deputy said, “…alone [sic] came the house dog charging at me in an aggressive manner and grabbing at my leg and my boots. I swung my baton at the dog to scare it away. The house dog then charge [sic] at me again in an aggressive manner and once swung my baton. The [sic] Mr. Sullivan couldn’t contain the dog. For a third time the house dog charged at me in an aggressive manner I then fire one shot with my hand gun and killing the dog [sic].”

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According to Kelli Sullivan, after killing Leia, the deputy told her that if she had bitten him, he’d have to sue, and that shooting her was the better option. He then told her, “It was a shame I had to waste that bullet, it was a really expensive hollow-point bullet.”

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The problem is no one can "cop-proof" their home. It's impossible. What seems normal to them seems suspicious or threatening to law enforcement officers. They can't stop pets from running to greet the new person in the house in whatever fashion the pet normally greets strangers. They can't stop people from walking out of rooms or through doors unexpectedly. All they can do is hope everything goes as uneventfully as possible. That completely skews these interactions. Those with the hours and years of specialized training are expected to be treated like heavily-armed babies -- shielded from surprises, loud noises, or unexpected movements. And, for the most part, the courts have treated these completely backwards rules of engagement as completely normal expectations.

That's how you end up with dead 12-lb. terriers and cops complaining about the cost of bullets: the constant shifting of responsibility back on the untrained citizens who thought they might end up with some help, rather than a dead pet, when they called the police.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20...t-bullet.shtml

11-10-2017 , 11:39 AM

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Melkerson

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Originally Posted by iron81

Since we were on the topic of stadiums, not sure how I feel about this one:

Compared to most everything in this thread that cop is a ****ing paragon of virtue.

11-10-2017 , 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Shooting one dog isn't the biggest deal in the world, but this kind of thing demonstrates how bad things are. It's such a sense of impunity.

11-10-2017 , 04:58 PM

#5531

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Originally Posted by microbet

Shooting one dog isn't the biggest deal in the world, but this kind of thing demonstrates how bad things are. It's such a sense of impunity.

http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/pu...ops-kill/10561

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In October, 2015, a supervisor with the DoJ’s Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) office estimated the canine death toll at the hands of the police at 25-30 dogs each day. If accurate, that’d mean up to 11,000 dead dogs each year, or almost exactly ten dogs for each human being shot and killed by a cop. However, there’s reason to believe the real number is significantly higher.

11-10-2017 , 08:34 PM

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LA cop, like the Baltimore cops, forgot that body cams record the 30 seconds prior to activation, gets busted planting drugs.

https://www.google.com/amp/losangele...testimony/amp/

11-15-2017 , 11:10 AM

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Chips Ahoy

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http://www.theadvocate.com/new_orlea...8d14cacbf.html

7 years for crack possession...
not a sentence of 7 years, but 7 years locked up waiting for a trial.
Not the speediest of speedy trials.

11-15-2017 , 01:15 PM

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Cops respond to a possible car burglary in the area, end up shooting a man in his own car because the burglar alarm was malfunctioning. The police say that he tried to run and then he somehow got shot

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/confl...ting/491717808

11-15-2017 , 02:50 PM

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Body searches of 900 Georgia students for drugs leads to $3 million settlement

(amount of drugs found: 0)

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In April, law enforcement from Georgia’s Worth County descended on a high school and, without a warrant, conducted body searches on an estimated 900 students, touching some students’ genitals and breasts. They said they were searching for drugs. They found none.

A class-action federal lawsuit soon followed, and the sheriff and two deputies were indicted in October in the raid on Worth High School in Sylvester, which is about 170 miles south of Atlanta. On Tuesday, a legal advocacy group, the Southern Center for Human Rights, said a proposed $3 million settlement had been reached in the lawsuit, pending a judge’s approval.

Earlier this week, Gov. Nathan Deal suspended Sheriff Jeff Hobby by executive order pending the outcome of his legal case or until the expiration of his term of office, whichever comes first. Hobby faces charges of sexual battery, false imprisonment and violation of oath of office, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

11-15-2017 , 03:00 PM

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Multimillion Dollar Settlement Reached by Worth County High School Students Subjected to Unconstitutional Mass Search

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Each class member will receive a monetary award of between $1,000 and $6,000, with those students subjected to more invasive searches receiving higher amounts.

Those numbers seem relatively low to me.

11-15-2017 , 06:49 PM

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stinkubus

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The people in charge to the school who let that happen should face consequences too.

11-16-2017 , 01:47 AM

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Based on the limited amount of information available in this article it's just unreal how the shooter got off in this case, a real clear example of "dead men tell no tales".

http://www.wctv.tv/content/news/Poli...304461621.html

12-05-2017 , 12:37 PM

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A new North Carolina law took effect Friday designed to hamstring the ability of judges to waive fines and fees for poor people.

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The measure seems crafted by the Republican-controlled General Assembly to maneuver around a 1983 U.S. Supreme Court decision, Bearden v. Georgia, in which the court held that people cannot be jailed simply because they are too poor to pay fines and fees. Judges can waive costs if the failure to pay is not willful.

North Carolina’s new law would not explicitly prohibit waivers for the poor, but would throw up a serious impediment, requiring judges to give 15 days notice to all affected agencies before issuing a waiver.

In North Carolina, that would be a lot of notices. An offender in the state is subject to a vast array of fees, from $5 for being arrested to $200 for failing to appear. The state charges a fee of $7.50 to underwrite the police and sheriff retirement funds and a fee of up to $40 a day for taking up space in jail. Perhaps inevitably, there is a $50 fee for failing to pay a fee.

In all, 52 fees are routed to four state agencies and 611 counties and municipalities.

http://www.wral.com/joe-neff-no-merc...ercy/17155238/

12-07-2017 , 02:28 PM

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Former South Carolina police officer Michael Slager was sentenced today to 20 years in prison for the 2015 deadly shooting of unarmed black man Walter Scott.

U.S. District Judge David Norton made the ruling after saying he would follow sentencing guidelines to send Slager to prison for 19 to 24 years. The former officer could have faced life in prison. Norton ruled that Slager committed second-degree murder and obstruction of justice.

That's the cop that shot the guy in the back as he was running and then planted a gun on him

http://abcnews.go.com/US/cop-michael...ry?id=51595376

12-07-2017 , 03:11 PM

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They had a mistrial the first time, correct?

12-07-2017 , 03:15 PM

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His state trial, yes; these were separate federal charges (and it sounds like his guilty plea was part of a deal to drop the state charges).

12-07-2017 , 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

His state trial, yes; these were separate federal charges (and it sounds like his guilty plea was part of a deal to drop the state charges).

Since it's Federal prison, does it mean he's got to do the full 20 years?

12-07-2017 , 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DrChesspain

Since it's Federal prison, does it mean he's got to do the full 20 years?

Roughly 85%. No parole in the Federal system but you can get time off (54 days a year) if the prisoner has displayed "exemplary compliance with institutional disciplinary regulations."

12-08-2017 , 10:59 AM

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The Media had a "sh*tty men" list, well the LA Sherriff's office had a "sh*tty deputies" list

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Ovalle kept his job, but his name was placed on a secret Sheriff’s Department list that now includes about 300 deputies with histories of dishonesty and similar misconduct, a Los Angeles Times investigation has found. The list is so tightly controlled that it can be seen by only a handful of high-ranking sheriff’s officials. Not even prosecutors can access it.

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Law enforcement and court records show:

One deputy on the list endangered the lives of fellow officers and an undercover informant when he warned a suspected drug dealer’s girlfriend that the dealer was being watched by police.

Another pepper-sprayed an elderly man in the face and then wrote a false report to justify arresting him.

A third pulled over a stranger and received oral sex from her in his patrol car.

The list also includes several deputies still with the department who were convicted of crimes — one for filing a false arrest report and another who was charged with domestic battery but pleaded no contest to a lesser offense. In other cases, prosecutors sharply criticized the deputies’ actions but declined to pursue criminal charges against them.

http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-s...htmlstory.html

12-08-2017 , 01:51 PM

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This video is intense. I feel for your country.

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A Maricopa County jury deliberated for less than six hours before finding Brailsford not guilty of murder on Thursday.

https://news.vice.com/story/horrific...ource=vicefbus

12-08-2017 , 04:26 PM

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That's a cold-blooded premeditated murder, and there's no way to see it any other way that doesn't involve being a nazi/fascist.

12-08-2017 , 04:44 PM

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Dude is crying right before he gets shot I don't know how any reasonable person could perceive him as a threat.

12-08-2017 , 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stinkubus

Dude is crying right before he gets shot I don't know how any reasonable person could perceive him as a threat.

The guy complies with every request while the police scream at him that any slight mistake and they'll kill him. Not that they think he's a threat but simply making a mistake will end up with him dying.