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09-22-2017 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
Are you friggin serious? Do you even Oklahoma, bro?

We have a ton,white trash,blacks, Mexicans and throw in the 39 Indian tribes and we got dialects out the wazoo.



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Most of whom are probably better at that there Englishin' than you. Or maybe you speak American.
09-22-2017 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bware
Most of whom are probably better at that there Englishin' than you. Or maybe you speak American.
Lol, you're not in Florida are you?

If so, good one

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09-23-2017 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
Oh I agree, but the law is always going to favor the cop.

Knowing that, that's the reason you don't try to make life and death decisions on the street with them.

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But all decisions are life and death decisions when you're dealing with American cops. Reaching for an ID? Oops you reached too fast. Told the cop you have a legal gun and that you're reaching for your ID? Oops too bad. Can't hear the cops orders because your deaf? Too bad.

You've already said that you're not dealing with even odds here. Unless the cop is a complete obvious psychopath who shoots you in cold blood in the back of the head while announcing he's executing you the law is going to find some way for you not to be doing yourself any favors.

I just don't see why, if we all agree that if this were to happen in any other major industrial country the guy wouldn't have been shot, that we can't hold our cops to those same standards.
09-23-2017 , 05:30 AM
Because the dude, assuming he's telling the truth about witnessing the event, is simply happy the s*** got shot. It's just that simple. Let's all just stop giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt, OK?
09-23-2017 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
I didn't see it, but others said one cop fires his taser, it missed or didn't make direct contact with the deafy and so the other cop fires his gun.

A complete comedy of errors.
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09-23-2017 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Because the dude, assuming he's telling the truth about witnessing the event, is simply happy the s*** got shot. It's just that simple. Let's all just stop giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt, OK?
I don't understand how saying both people messed up is saying I'm glad Special Eduardo is dead.

Family says he's developmentally disabled in addition to deaf and mute.

In addition to the blame,let's not let his father off the hook,he hits a car,flips his truck,leaves the scene and hides in the house while his son is getting shot.

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09-23-2017 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
I don't understand how saying both people messed up is saying I'm glad Special Eduardo is dead.

Family says he's developmentally disabled in addition to deaf and mute.

In addition to the blame,let's not let his father off the hook,he hits a car,flips his truck,leaves the scene and hides in the house while his son is getting shot.

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It's your fault. You live in the area. That cop works for you. You are responsible for the actions of your employee.

I suggest you take a closer look at who you hire.
09-23-2017 , 12:57 PM
Special Eduardo? Stay classy.
09-23-2017 , 01:09 PM
So we have deafy, tard, and special Eduardo used to describe a dead guy all on one page. Maybe we should just reopen unchained/7.0/chezfront, this forum doesn't seem to be doing much better in taking out the trash.
09-23-2017 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
I don't understand how saying both people messed up is saying I'm glad Special Eduardo is dead.

Family says he's developmentally disabled in addition to deaf and mute.

In addition to the blame,let's not let his father off the hook,he hits a car,flips his truck,leaves the scene and hides in the house while his son is getting shot.

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Cool. The father and son get all the blame assigned to them. That gets them a charge or ticket or whatever anywhere else. It gets the father killed here.
09-23-2017 , 03:40 PM
Cmon guys. Mistakes were made on many sides.
09-24-2017 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Because the dude, assuming he's telling the truth about witnessing the event, is simply happy the s*** got shot. It's just that simple. Let's all just stop giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt, OK?
He witnessed the event but I don't think he's smart and self-aware enough to realize he's not telling the truth.

Basically, he was close enough to rubberneck and afterwards asked people what happened, internalizing the answers that suited his narrative and disregarded those that did not. That's why he seemed to speak with God's Own Conviction about things that painted the victim negatively but was highly suspicious about things that painted the victim positively and/or sympathetically.


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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
Not so fast, this was literally down the road from me, the deaf guy was defending his father who had been involved in a hit and run, which if you see the surveillance video, it's a wonder he wasn't killed, he flips his truck, it rolls back onto it's wheels and he goes to his sons residence.

Evidently he told the son what happened and so the son gets a pipe/ stick and goes to confront the cops when they show up a few minutes later.

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Originally Posted by Eeyorefora
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And his father supposedly didn't speak English very well, so no telling what he told his son about what happened, I don't know the family, just happened to be on the street dropping off a co worker,we were a couple houses down talking and got curious when the banged up truck pulled into the yard and a few minutes later a cop car pulled up.

Some witnesses say he was mentally handicapped, I can't speak to that, my co worker isn't sure, it's one of those things,you have neighbors but you don't know much about them.

Like I said, plenty of bad decisions all around.





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It's mickey mouse bull****.
09-24-2017 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
And the electrician has every right to run away from the dog. Because he's not the dogcatcher, he's the electrician.

You people just like fundamentally don't get how any of this is supposed to work.
you're advocating for a "duty to retreat"? forget about the profession, for a minute

then return to the profession, ask why you are now talking about a dog, and how a cop is not the equivalent of a dogcatcher in your warped parallel
09-24-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Because the dude, assuming he's telling the truth about witnessing the event, is simply happy the s*** got shot. It's just that simple. Let's all just stop giving these clowns the benefit of the doubt, OK?
what's the opposite of "benefit of the doubt"?
09-24-2017 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
you're advocating for a "duty to retreat"? forget about the profession, for a minute

then return to the profession, ask why you are now talking about a dog, and how a cop is not the equivalent of a dogcatcher in your warped parallel
Police departments have policies to retreat from situations where their involvement increases the danger like high speed chases in some places.

Whatever though. Huehue keeps getting at the big picture here. This doesn't happen like this anywhere near as often in countries with better police and that's just about every other country.
09-24-2017 , 11:17 AM
the international comparison is certainly salient

and it's difficult to explain, given the shared history of African slavery and bigoted Christianity among the other European powers


it's easy to say "we're just racist", but that really begs the question
09-24-2017 , 11:18 AM
on second thought, I don't think the euro's actually imported that many africans onto their own continent
09-24-2017 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf
you're advocating for a "duty to retreat"? forget about the profession, for a minute

then return to the profession, ask why you are now talking about a dog, and how a cop is not the equivalent of a dogcatcher in your warped parallel
I've made my stance clear itt. Read it.

They have a duty to serve and protect, not murder, the populace. That's the job.
09-26-2017 , 11:29 PM
Shout out to body cam footage showing cops doing good things

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A Sacramento, California police lieutenant is being credited with potentially saving the life of a women in distress. The incident captured on the officer's body camera took place about 4:45 p.m. on September 20th
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/video-vau...owTwt_DFWBrand
09-27-2017 , 12:06 PM
He didn't even have to take his gun out
09-27-2017 , 12:36 PM
They were extremely lucky that the camera was working!
09-27-2017 , 09:55 PM
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And for Taney, who was an early exemplar of the school of thought that would come to be known as constitutional originalism, the question of the founders’ intentions in writing the Constitution could be boiled down to the question of how they would have thought about the role of black people in politics and in public. Would the founders have exempted members of the “African race” from the “special laws” that regulated their behavior? Would they have allowed them to travel from state to state “without pass or passport,” and “go where they please at every hour of the day or night without molestation?” Would they have allowed them to “hold meetings upon public affairs and to keep and carry arms wherever they went?”

Of course not, he answered. Reasoning backwards from the fact that African Americans had no political rights, Taney concluded they had no rights at all. On the contrary, he argued, they were “of an inferior order and altogether unfit to associate with the white race, either in social or political relations, and so far inferior that they had no rights which the white man was bound to respect.” No rights which the white man was bound to respect: ten of the most notorious words in the history of the United States.

Blocks from the courthouse in St. Louis where Dred Scott filed suit 160 years ago, we can once again see the malign logic of Justice Taney’s opinion expressed in full martial array.
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It goes without saying that those who seek to exercise their constitutionally protected right to assemble in the street and speak their minds will find no support from Jefferson Beauregard Sessions’s Justice Department, or from police brutality’s cheerleader-in-chief, Donald Trump.

What we have seen in St. Louis over the last fortnight is the outline of an actually existing police state. There is no apparent check on the actions of police officers but the limits of their own energy and the dictates of their own conscience.

The Dred Scott decision effectively argued that black people lived in Missouri by the grace of white people. It made clear that there would be no legal limit to what white people—either individually or constituted as the local or state government—might do to them. For black protestors, their white supporters, and anyone else unlucky enough to be standing nearby, St. Louis today represents a frightening image—part fulfillment, part portent—of the world according to Chief Justice Roger Taney.
http://bostonreview.net/law-justice/...-bound-respect
10-04-2017 , 10:06 AM
https://www.revealnews.org/article/t...hicken-plants/

Slavery making a comeback in the USA. Government & business dance around the 13th amendment for a private profit. Great for them, not so great for the workers.
10-04-2017 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy
https://www.revealnews.org/article/t...hicken-plants/

Slavery making a comeback in the USA. Government & business dance around the 13th amendment for a private profit. Great for them, not so great for the workers.
Shame Trolley has posted about slavery in the prison system.

Also, here's another article about chicken processing.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...-chicken-plant

Even when they don't use slaves it's pretty awful.
10-04-2017 , 10:35 AM
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...n_3529891.html

This old article on the lack of any kind of accountability for prosecutors who try to convict and execute people they know to be innocent will shock even the hardened reader.

The article features John Thompson -- twice wrongfully convicted -- who just died (while free).

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“This isn’t about bad men, though they were most assuredly bad men,” Thompson says. “It’s about a system that is void of integrity. Mistakes can happen. But if you don’t do anything to stop them from happening again, you can’t keep calling them mistakes.”

      
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