I think traffic sould be reasonably orderly and think people should operate their motor vehicles in a reasonably safe manner. Ways to encourage that, or to discourage people not doing that, I don't know the best manner. Do I think we need more laws, more rules, more regulations to facilitate that? No. Do I think that we need people carrying guns whose expertise is rapid response to dangerous situations to be in charge of ensuring that? No.

I guess when I said profit motive and markets, I was indeed in the right thread. It is just amazing how many people are cool with "I don't know, but someone will solve it, ldo".

The last time I got pulled over I had to slam on the brakes because the cop pulled out in front of me, so yes I would feel a lot safer with them off the road.

Is this a troll post? Seems like it to me. Why are you against people discussing/proposing alternatives to the status quo? Do you really think government is on the right track?

This I can actually agree with, because I do agree too many people who work traffic are of the wrong mindset.

I'd be happy to see a system where 4-5 man teams (much like firemen) responded to calls, and possibly lesser trained individuals worked traffic specifically.

I could be happy with that. Basically, everybody wins. You've got your no chase policy because the road guys would have somebody run, they'd stay close radioing locations until the operators could arrive via helicopter, maybe 2 on the ground, vehicle stops, we all fastrope out of the bird, AR's drawn down on the vehicle, apprehension is made, public safety endangered less, I get to wear black and fastrope from a chopper, there are no losers in your scenario.

That is how most things work. I don't know how my car works, but I trust that it does. When you remove monopolies there is room for inovention

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I don't think I'm against people proposing alternatives. If you point them out to me, I'd be happy to read those posts.

AnalogyFail.

If you want to claim it isn't a fail, then point out those people who know how to do what you want (after all, there ARE currently people who know how your car works).

LOL, the county next to the one I worked in was notorious for having motor units posted at various points running traffic by means of one running radar and telling his partner which vehicles were speeding, at which point the partner would walk into traffic and tell you to pull over.

I told them somebody's gonna get killed doing that ****.

I think my post was more or less pointing out that other alternatives could be better than the way things are now. I haven't thought about what those alternatives are. I don't happen to have much experience in developing strategies with respect to city infrastructure or things like that so really don't have the knowledge or experience to propose well thought out alternatives. But I'd like to hear the thoughts of others on the matter and that may help give me a few ideas of my own. Who knows.

Are you saying only the people with guns know how to do stuff? I mean if there way is the best way, what are the guns for?

no

Edit to add: simply pointing out that something that you know works actually works doesn't mean that you can assert that every conceivable thing you can want exists. That'd be like saying, "I don't know how my TV works, but someone does, so if you remove monopolies everyone gets a free pony"

I like the idea of 4-5 man teams responding to calls and lesser trained people dealing with traffic issues. Can't say I'm for para military staffed choppers being called out to deal with everyone who runs from a cop though.

So you're not actually proposing alternatives. That's what I was saying.

We could work on that. I ust want to fastrope from a chopper haha

You are correct sir. But if you notice Dbl suggested 'lesser trained individuals' (rather than fully trained police officers who also have the expertise to respond to armed robberies in progress, etc) dealing with traffic, which I then agreed with. This is how idea's sometimes develop.

Maybe we could take a chopper to the call, I could fastrope to the door?

Sounds sweet. End the drug war and every police station could probably afford to be outfitted with their station to have an attack chopper parked on the roof ready to go after bad guys

I also require a PA system loud enough to blast the "Theme From SWAT" as I make my Entrance.

Ok tajin it to the drunk thread

lol at using "traffic control" here

we're talking about one specific aspect and you try to extrapolate to some "logical conclusion" about a huge, broad topic. #fail

The mood ITT needs to be more cheerful IMO so here some videos we can all lolz to

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Don't politard this up people

No I'm in Fulton Co. but im not surprised

Let's just leave it, without delving too deeply into a lot of unrelated ****, with this; If you remove the incentives for people to stop when a police officer signals them to pull over, you remove the ability for the police officer to pull people over. If you remove the police officers ability to pull people over, you lose the ability for the police officer to control traffic.

I agree. Luckily nobody has proposed removing the incentives for people to stop when cops signal them to pull over.