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shots fired somewhere in the vicinity of a cop's house out in the middle of nowhere.

obvious explanation: beyonce

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ing-near-home/

02-22-2016 , 02:24 AM

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Louis Cyphre

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Albert Woodfox released after 43 years of solitary confinement.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...mp-confinement

How is this not considered torture/cruel and unusual punishment?

02-22-2016 , 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre

How is this not considered torture/cruel and unusual punishment?

It is quite usual, sadly.

03-09-2016 , 01:45 AM

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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...FlowFB_NYBrand

cliffs: cops bust into wrong apartment, see an old guy with a knife (cuz he's like, in his kitchen chopping onions for his soup), taze the **** out of him, charge him with harassment.

the good news is THE SYSTEM WORKED, he was cleared of all charges.

03-09-2016 , 07:47 AM

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South Dakota require defendants to pay $92/hr for a public defender. It's a crime if you don't pay.

http://www.argusleader.com/story/new...rice/81205714/

03-09-2016 , 12:51 PM

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That is a weirdly exact number.

I also don't get how that is legal. Isn't the right to council provided by the government a legal right in America?

Edit, missed it said it's a constitutionally respected right so how can this be legal? Charging is clearly against the spirit of that right if perhaps not the exact wording. Surely a court rules unanimously it being unconstitutional?

03-09-2016 , 01:46 PM

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ludacris

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It's probably some percentage of some average of hourly rates lawyers in South Dakota charge.

03-09-2016 , 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by [Phill]

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In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right ... to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

I guess the idea is that South Dakota makes sure you have a lawyer. They just don't make it a free one.

03-09-2016 , 03:48 PM

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It is slam dunk unconstitutional IMO, and has been since Gideon v. Wainwright was decided.

The right to an attorney is a right that a huge number of states stomp on regularly. The ACLU has started to target this issue for litigation in recent years, so hopefully we will see some positive developments in the next decade.

03-09-2016 , 03:58 PM

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Some counties in Georgia pay lawyers a set amount per month to defend all the defendants who come through the system. So there's massive incentive to pressure evrryone to plead guilty. In some cases they've just told defendants they won't help them if it goes to trial.

03-09-2016 , 05:30 PM

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Pushing pleas without adequate investigation is one of the biggest problems in states with overburdened public defenders (which is most of them). I worked on a litigation against New York state on this issue, and the methods are egregious. The guarantee of a public defender is basically fulfilled in name only.

03-09-2016 , 05:36 PM

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It's gross here in Maryland too (and I'm in a smaller jurisdiction, can't imagine the hell it must be in Baltimore). The friends I have in the PD's office work 60+ hour weeks (for like $45k/year) and still can't give everyone adequate representation.

03-11-2016 , 05:42 PM

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"Stop resisting" and "I felt threatened" are magic words in law enforcement that typically allow you to beat/kill someone. Too bad for them about the additional security camera.

03-11-2016 , 06:09 PM

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The "Stop Resisting" is ubiquitous enough that it is almost certain that police departments are actually coaching officers to say this (possibly not in an official capacity). It is as if they're getting specific training on how to beat down someone and get away with it.

03-11-2016 , 07:26 PM

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It's kind of interesting that the police are becoming mini directors and directing the body camera to get the narrative that they want.

03-13-2016 , 10:02 PM

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Thumbs up for that Marion county sheriff though right? I guess it shouldn't be shocking or commendable that he's holding the thugs accountable but, well, it is.

03-14-2016 , 02:22 AM

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Why didn't BLM team up with CBB and demand that specific laws be passed, simply:

1. federal investigation of officer shootings, or at least independent state agencies investigate officer shootings. investigators must be independent.

2. federal funding for body cameras.

3. heavy fines for malfunctioning or failure to use body cams for cities of those police stations

4. funding for independent gov office where complaints of police brutality can be filed and investigated

??

03-14-2016 , 07:45 AM

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What is the cbb? All Google spits out is **** about ****ing reality tv.

What do you mean team up with? BLM is a collection of a powerless minority expressing dissatisfaction of how they are treated. If they had power to get things done they would have.

They have expressly demanded some of that and if it works they have implied support of the others. By definition they won't be able to out lobby the corrupt evil police unions.

03-14-2016 , 01:03 PM

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Think he meant CBC: Congressional Black Caucus

03-17-2016 , 06:08 PM

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http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/15/te...-bikers-video/

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A Texas cop has been placed on administrative leave after he was caught on video shooting pepper spray into a crowd of 200 bikers driving down the highway.

Fort Worth police placed an officer, identified as W. Figueroa, on administrative leave Monday after video surfaced allegedly showing the officer spraying pepper spray into a group of bikers, The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reports. A biker in the group filmed the incident on a GoPro camera. The video shows the officer, who is pulled over on the side of the road, get out of his car with a canister and spray it out into the middle of the highway, apparently trying to hit the motorcyclists.

03-17-2016 , 08:40 PM

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Since we rip on the obvious police misbehavior here, shoutout to Moose Butler in NC for actually disciplining officers for not doing anything after the TRUMP protestor got punched. Sadly this is more discipline than most cops get for shooting unarmed civilians.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2567331

03-17-2016 , 09:12 PM

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Pepperspray cop should be facing criminal assault charges, but we know that ain't gonna happen.

03-22-2016 , 06:58 PM

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...own_death.html

cliffs: old man crossing the street in a crosswalk with the "walk" signal gets run over and killed by a cop (who was illegally using her phone), police blame the victim

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