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07-18-2013 , 03:46 AM
And then there is another routine traffic stop .

Some 2+2er and his BR?
07-18-2013 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AngusThermopyle
And then there is another routine traffic stop .

Some 2+2er and his BR?
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07-18-2013 , 07:02 PM
"The Washington Post brings us a look at the preliminary findings of a sweeping federal review into thousands of old criminal cases in which FBI forensic experts may have overstated their scientific testimony to help secure a conviction. The early takeaway is difficult to ignore: Exaggerated testimony may have played a role in landing at least 27 people on death row."

Oops.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._may_have.html

Edit: I lol at all these people saying GZ was overcharged or never should have gone to trial. There are 100 worse injustices every day for defendants.
07-18-2013 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
"The Washington Post brings us a look at the preliminary findings of a sweeping federal review into thousands of old criminal cases in which FBI forensic experts may have overstated their scientific testimony to help secure a conviction. The early takeaway is difficult to ignore: Exaggerated testimony may have played a role in landing at least 27 people on death row."

Oops.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate..._may_have.html

Edit: I lol at all these people saying GZ was overcharged or never should have gone to trial. There are 100 worse injustices every day for defendants.

LOL so the fact that other people are screwed more means that zimmerman should be screwed. Sick thought process.
07-19-2013 , 12:28 AM
Christ how did we get with a justice system run by lawyers. No wonder it is so utterly corrupt. At least "Better Call Saul" had internally consistent ethics.
07-19-2013 , 01:32 AM
Actually, the justice system is run by money and taxpayers aren't willing to foot the bill that would be required for fairness. Trying a real case, like Zimmerman, etc. requires a lot of time and effort by many highly trained people. Like two+ people with 7+ years of college, 15+ years combined experience, and assorted experts and support staff. Last time I took my car into the local shop it was $115/hr for labor, so you can do the math. A serious defense/trial prep for three+ months can easily hit a million.

The easiest way to fix things is to decriminalize most drugs, which would limit unjust incarcerations and free up resources to ensure a bit more thought goes into the process. That structural solution would solve many individual problems much worse than poor GZ, who (remember) killed an unarmed guy after following him.
07-19-2013 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cotton Hill
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/02...g-checkpoints/

Setting up random drug search checkpoints is illegal according to the supreme court, but apparently setting up FAKE drug search checkpoints and then searching anyone who acts 'suspiciously' when they see the fake checkpoint is ok.
I, for one, am shocked, shocked that the author of a foxnews.com article misread a Supreme Court opinion.

In City of Indianapolis v. Edmond, the Court never said "actual drug checkpoints are not legal and that police can randomly stop cars for just two reasons: to prevent immigrants without legal permission to be in the U.S. and contraband from entering the country and to get drunk drivers off the road..."

The issue is whether the checkpoint is merely a cover for general crime control purposes. To wit:

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The primary purpose of city's drug interdiction checkpoint program, wherein city police officers demanded driver's licenses and registrations, peered into windows, and led drug-sniffing dogs around automobiles was indistinguishable from city's general interest in crime control
But the Court leaves the door open to drug stop programs:

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In determining whether individualized suspicion is required to support a stop of a motorist's vehicle, the Supreme Court must consider the nature of the interests threatened and their connection to the particular law enforcement practices at issue.......

this program was not justified by severe and intractable nature of the drug problem, checkpoints could not be rationalized in terms of highway safety
07-21-2013 , 04:01 PM


The cops may seem a little harsh here, but once you hear what the woman is accused of doing it makes more sense.
07-21-2013 , 04:16 PM
At least put it in spoilers so I don't actually have to watch the 15 min vid.....
07-21-2013 , 04:32 PM
It's less than a minute in
07-21-2013 , 04:33 PM
Spoiler:
The lazy fatass behind the counter at the post office thinks she might have put rocks in the mailbox.
07-21-2013 , 04:35 PM
That's federal property, tho. Might as well be blowing up the Pentagon. I look forward to the upcoming terrorist charges and Gitmo.
07-21-2013 , 05:56 PM
I thought maybe he was going to pee on her put they would turn the dash cam off for that. They ratted on the kids so I hope there complaint or it could be a nasty head first take down, most police departments practice on dwarves to get them conditioned to beat 4 year olds. But being serious nothing like a cavity search and take down before we figure out whats going on, for there safety ofc.
07-23-2013 , 01:39 AM
Were they expecting to find the rocks up in the cavity or something? More like sexual assault to establish your dominance. Even more disgusting:

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After nearly two months of being told repeatedly by the Mission police that there was no dash-cam video, here it is! It's a MIRACLE we even got it. The officers in the video are Michelle Pierce & Officer Tim Gift. Special appearance by the bald-headed officer who is NOT named nor even mentioned as being on the scene in the police reports. This officer is the one who was threatening my wife with having CPS take our two youngest daughters away. This could happen to YOUR wife & daughters next if these officers are allowed to get away with this!

--HOW WE GOT THE VIDEO--
We had to have an attorney subpoena the videos of all three officers on the scene. We ALSO had our attorney request of the Post Office in writing AND in person for any video footage. We kept getting the same answer. "There is NO video!" FINALLY, My wife called the courthouse to ask about the videos. The courthouse transferred her to a woman named Suzanna at the Mission PD. My wife asked Suzanna if she had gotten a subpoena for video evidence. The woman instantly said "IS THIS ABOUT THE POST OFFICE INCIDENT?" My wife said "Yes", shocked that this woman already knew what the phone call was about before my wife could even explain... The woman quickly said, "There are NO videos." My wife then told Suzanna, "That's a LIE. I KNOW there is a video because I was THERE when Officer Pierce walked in & asked Officer Gift if his cam was on & he said yes. Officer Pierce then asked for Officer Gift's dash-cam password which he gave her in front of me!" The woman on the phone got very quiet. She then asked my wife, "So you were THERE-- IN the building?" My wife said "Yes! I was sitting RIGHT THERE!" The woman on the other end got quiet again & my wife then hung up. THE VERY NEXT DAY, our criminal defense attorney called & said he had good news. To his surprise, Officer Gift had a dash- cam video & they sent it to our attorney! Wow-- What a coincidence! =/
It's a shame we only got one video, but it's better than nothing.
08-02-2013 , 02:41 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...mp-4688820.php

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The former UC Davis police officer who pepper-sprayed a group of seated protesters at a campus Occupy demonstration in 2011 is appealing for workers' compensation for psychiatric damage stemming from the incident.

Lt. John Pike, who was videotaped spraying the students Nov. 18, 2011, is scheduled to go before a settlement conference about the case Aug. 13 in Sacramento, according to the state Department of Industrial Relations website.
Evidently the guy had to move to get away from the angry mob and wants to get paid for it.
08-02-2013 , 07:39 PM
What a warped view of reality that douche has where he is somehow the victim here.
08-02-2013 , 07:42 PM
He was just following orders
08-02-2013 , 09:10 PM
SWAT team raids a NO-KILL ANIMAL SHELTER because they might not have had a proper permit for holding a baby deer (the agents ended up euthanizing the deer, which was rehabilitated and about to be moved to a wildlife refuge).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3691317.html
08-02-2013 , 11:15 PM
Yeah, I read that earlier today. They sent in a 13 person SWAT team to take the deer so that it could be euthanized.

The owners of the shelter had made arrangements to move the deer to a properly licensed facility the next day.

Oh, and to top it all off, one of the shelter's employees attempted to record the raid on her cel phone, only to have a member of the SWAT team grab it from her and delete the footage.
08-02-2013 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pvn
SWAT team raids a NO-KILL ANIMAL SHELTER because they might not have had a proper permit for holding a baby deer (the agents ended up euthanizing the deer, which was rehabilitated and about to be moved to a wildlife refuge).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3691317.html
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On its Facebook page, the department notes that its agents requested voluntary compliance from the shelter's employees, and when that didn't happen, its staff "took precautions to keep everyone safe" as they executed the warrant.
I will sleep better tonight knowing that those brave government agents took out that dangerous deer. Ah, the sweet, sweet safety.
08-03-2013 , 12:26 AM
When you have a hammer, all the world's a nail. New book, lotta good reviews.

Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces
08-03-2013 , 12:33 AM
But if my local neighborhood policeman doesn't have an assault rifle, body armor, and armored vehicle the terrorists might get me.
08-06-2013 , 05:15 PM
The use and abuse of civil forfeiture

http://m.newyorker.com/reporting/201...urrentPage=all

      
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