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07-30-2018 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
In my area now if you call to make a complaint through the non-emergency line the police won't even talk to you unless you provide your own SSN so that they can check you for warrants.
WTF?? Where is this?
07-30-2018 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
WTF?? Where is this?
Northwestern Pennsylvania.
07-30-2018 , 02:00 PM
07-31-2018 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
this girl i was sleeping with awhile ago called me at like 10:30pm one night near christmas and said one of the local outside the city municipalities had jailed her and asked me if i could come bail her out for 163 dollars for a traffic citation that was almost 10 years old. she had been pulled over and not cited by a different municipality, but this one had a warrant out on her and demanded she be arrested and transported across the city. They were really going to keep a single mother in jail over Christmas for a ten year old traffic ticket.

good people.
There is also "Operation Grinch" where the city saves up warrants they could have served well before and serve them all right before Christmas.

link

They try to make it sound like they are arresting people that are committing crimes at that time so they can make the city safe, but really they are just screwing with poor families over minor criminal charges.

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“We're doing mean, bad things at Christmas time in the eyes of some people,” said Weirton Police Chief Rob Alexander.

For 12 hours, three days before Santa could bring the presents, police, troopers and more brought the warrants. But unlike carolers or family members, they weren't greeted with glad tidings.

“It's that time of the year, c'mon man. Enjoy the holiday and stop doing bad things. You shouldn't be doing bad things as it is but this time of year. Gee la whiz,” Alexander said.

This year police had 40 warrants. And just like the previous two years, their operation appears to have been a success.

“The goal is to go in and put those people under some type of accountability, whether it's them sitting in jail or out on bond, whether magistrate tells them what they need to do, it gives some kind of accountability to them,” said Alexander.

“Last year the holidays were peaceful. The year before that the holidays was peaceful and looking forward to a peaceful holiday again,” he continued.

A total of 23 people were arrested during the operation; nine were taken to the Northern Regional Jail. Their charges range from possession to larceny to obstruction.
Note: all non-violent misdemeanors.

So, keeping things safe by not serving a bunch of petty misdemeanor warrants (one of the ones I had was ten months old and the guy lived at the address on the warrant) until right before Christmas so the evil people who did things like shoplift or own pot or argue with a cop have to give money to a bondsman at the time of year that most poor people are most feeling the crunch of poverty.

"Law and Order" in a nutshell.
08-01-2018 , 12:21 PM
Oklahoma releases statistics that show that state question 780 (making all simple possession charges a misd. regardless of priors) has saved the state over 60 million dollars in its first year.
08-03-2018 , 11:00 AM
08-05-2018 , 11:25 AM
Student reported for suspicious lunching

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...?event=event25
08-07-2018 , 08:43 PM
08-13-2018 , 01:43 PM
Columbus, Ohio is firing a black officer

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Six months later, Lt. Melissa McFadden, one of the department’s few high-ranking Black officers, also made a joke, according to police records. But she is now facing far more severe repercussions that reflect the disparities in how Black and white officers are treated, she told The Appeal. During a performance evaluation with a Black sergeant, McFadden said that she could have given him a poor rating, but that she did not believe in “Black on Black crime.” The department found that this rating was an act of favoritism and created a “hostile work environment.”
Which might be cause in a normal enviroment........but....... let's check in with some other Columbus Ohio officers

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“Anybody know where I can get some C-4???” asked Trent Taylor, a white police officer in Columbus, Ohio, commenting on a fellow officer’s Facebook post about a police shooting protest in July 2016. The post was reported. But Taylor told investigators that his reference to explosives was meant to be “humorous,” and the complaint was dismissed as “unfounded.” The year before, Taylor had been involved in a fatal shooting of a Black suspect, which the department deemed justified.
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In 2014, Eric Moore, a white officer, was accused of calling two Black officers the n-word and making statements about killing them. Colleagues interviewed about Moore said that he would also use the terms “apes” and “monkeys” when referring to Black people. Investigators in 2015 determined that Moore did use derogatory language but only gave him a written reprimand. At the time, Chief Jacobs, who is white and now calling for McFadden to be fired for her comments, said a written reprimand was sufficient for this racist language. “If I could prove a racist, sexist, homophobic mindset impacted an officer’s behavior, that’s something I can act on,” Jacobs told the Columbus Dispatch. “But it has to be actions, not thoughts.”

Last year, video emerged of Columbus police officer Zachary Rosen stomping the head of DeMarco Anderson, a young Black man. The beating took place two weeks after a grand jury declined to indict Rosen for fatally shooting a 23-year-old Black man. Jacobs recommended Rosen be suspended for three days without pay, but the city went further, choosing to fire him. Columbus’s police union, however, rallied behind the white officer and appealed the decision, getting him his job back this year.
https://theappeal.org/columbus-ohio-...iscrimination/
08-15-2018 , 04:48 AM
NYPD pilots refuse to fly counterterrorism missions
nypd-pilots-flew-4m-plane-in-penis-shaped-route-to-troll-boss/

The NY post story here is that the pilots flew a sky-penis to protest having to fly missions 25 miles out to sea in a single engine turboprop plane. The missions are to scan ships offshore for radioactive material which could be nukes or dirty bombs.

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In July 2017, pilots were told to fly at low altitudes over open water 25 miles offshore so they could scan ships for radiological weapons.

“If that prop [propeller plane] goes, it’s over. You’re going to crash into the ocean,” a source said they warned their boss, Coan.

“They wouldn’t have enough glide time to get back to land at that altitude. It was like a suicide mission.”
To give you a sense of the risk they are talking about, the "in-flight shutdown rate" of a Cessna Caravan (the type they use) is 1 out of every 330,000 flight hours. If they fly a one hour mission every day, they would expect an engine to fail every 900 years or so.

If they have an engine failure, escaping the airplane and surviving is pretty easy if they are well trained and wearing immersion suits. Survival rate for a ditching would be easily 90%. (see video of a Cessna Caravan ditching in hawaii, with untrained, unprepared passengers having to don lifejackets and egress Ditching.

So the risk is negligible, about on par with the risk of driving a car. Obviously these guys are warrior-cops, with the courage of a hundred ordinary men, and these are counter-terror missions that could save thousands of lives from dirty bombs or nukes brought into the country by ship, and they are getting well paid, so

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In total, a dozen pilots have questioned the wisdom of flying a single-engine plane so far out over open water, sources said.

Eight of them — including the five penis-drawing pilots — were stripped of their flight gear and made to clean plane hangars and wash Coan’s department car, according to sources.

“Any of the people who complained about the mission — they got the s–t end of the stick,” a source said. “They had to do all these menial tasks outside their job description, including washing his car.”

NYPD pilots average more than $100,000 a year in pay, according to records posted on SeeThroughNY.net. “They’re wasting a fortune in training and expertise,” a source added.

By May, the NYPD had agreed to cease the offshore counterterror missions altogether until it met with the union representing pilots, but the meeting has yet to happen, sources said.
Please let's stop pretending these guys are heroes
08-15-2018 , 07:27 AM
I’m not a pilot, and I don’t know anything about planes, but couldn’t they just invest in a dual prop plane.

In the name of counter terrorism and all that...
08-15-2018 , 08:08 AM
If anything, won't they just switch to drones?
08-15-2018 , 01:23 PM
It's pretty standard for small planes to avoid flying over water, though that's mostly for hobbyists.
08-15-2018 , 06:02 PM
Hardly worth ragging on the cops for.
08-15-2018 , 06:11 PM
It's another example of cops being unwilling to accept the slightest amount of risk.
08-15-2018 , 06:19 PM
I get that, but in this case who cares?
08-15-2018 , 07:19 PM
Municipal cops shouldn't be patrolling 25 miles off the coast. Their jurisdiction should end at the city line, not in ****ing international waters. If incoming ships need to be checked for nukes, that's why we have a Coast Guard. The NYPD is pissed at these pilots because they threw a monkey wrench into the department's power grab/sprawl.
08-15-2018 , 08:11 PM
people that dont think they should be hero worshiped for walking around the block care.

to me its beside the point that they shouldn't be enforcing that jurisdiction, if the court/lawyers say that's within their jurisdiction (which im assuming they have since the article doesnt mention it) then that's their jurisdiction.


also the 4 that are getting paid 6 figures to goof off and fly penis shaped routes should obviously be fired immediately.
08-15-2018 , 08:20 PM
I'm not opposed to firing every single cop in the entire country, but I'm not worked up over this and not even over the penis route. I wish flying penis routes was all that cops did.
08-16-2018 , 01:35 AM
The reason I care is that a lot of cops think of themselves as modern-day warriors, looking down on the weak sheep they are tasked with protecting, who (the sheep) will never understand the balls it takes to do battle on the street every day. Wearing soldier costumes and carrying themselves like badasses that just came back from the jungles of Vietnam. Moaning about the dangers of their jobs and the 'war on cops.' *

And most of the public believes this nonsense, despite all the statistics about the actual safety of being a police officer in the US. So an example of NYPD pilots refusing to fly important missions (this isn't knocking down doors of suspected drug dealers at 3am, this is a counter-terror mission) because they are scared, when thousands of commercial pilots fly the same aircraft type in far more dangerous conditions every day for less money, well that pisses me off.

These pilots aren't refusing to fly because they disagree with the jurisdiction creep of the NYPD.

*For an excellent example of this, On Combat: The Psychology and Physiology of Deadly Conflict in War and in Peace by Dave Grossman, Loren W. Christensen. Excellent book with a lot of interesting information about performance under stress. Really cringeworthy though for all the flag-sucking warrior jerk-off culture.
08-19-2018 , 02:43 AM
Georgia Police Dept. Defends Use of Taser on 87-Year-Old Woman

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/u...rgia-cops.html
08-19-2018 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
Georgia Police Dept. Defends Use of Taser on 87-Year-Old Woman

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/17/u...rgia-cops.html
Do not call the police.
08-19-2018 , 09:10 AM
Why do white people call the cops on so many things?
08-19-2018 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Do not call the police.
Scary to think that you have to consider calling the police on someone is a potential death sentence as opposed to a negligible possibility.
08-19-2018 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
It's pretty standard for small planes to avoid flying over water, though that's mostly for hobbyists.
Single-engine piston aircraft, sure, plenty of pilots aren't comfortable flying those over open water. Plenty are though, and the last two record holders for "Youngest Pilot to circumnavigate the world" both did it in single-engine piston planes: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/adrian...b_6875340.html

Being 1000 miles from anywhere, with no coast guard to immediately come pick you up, is a different kettle of fish to being 25 miles from the eastern seaboard, where you'd be picked up in no time at all. They could just ditch next to one of the boats they are supposed to be inspecting or wait 30 minutes for a helicopter.

And aside from that, piston engines fail 200-500x more often than turbine engines, and the Cessna Caravan has a turbine.

      
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