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I recently had a client, alcoholic on his third DUI, who was thrilled to be given the opportunity to work in a chicken plant, even though the work itself was pretty awful. He had no other options - nobody would hire him and he was facing escalating jail time.

He checked into a rehab program and paid his way with his labor.

The rehab program has since ****ed him over, but that's another issue.

10-04-2017 , 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnotawerewolf

The person in the story posted was happy to get the chicken plant at first too. Have you talked to your client post chicken plant?

10-04-2017 , 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

https://www.revealnews.org/article/t...hicken-plants/

Slavery making a comeback in the USA. Government & business dance around the 13th amendment for a private profit. Great for them, not so great for the workers.

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The program has become an invaluable labor source. Over the years, Simmons Foods repeatedly has laid off paid employees while expanding its use of CAAIR. Simmons now is so reliant on the program for some shifts that the plants likely would shut down if the men didn’t show up, according to former staff members and plant supervisors.

The program goes from slavery is a way to cut cost corners to slavery is integral to our business model.

10-04-2017 , 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chips Ahoy

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...n_3529891.html

This old article on the lack of any kind of accountability for prosecutors who try to convict and execute people they know to be innocent will shock even the hardened reader.

The article features John Thompson -- twice wrongfully convicted -- who just died (while free).

A+ article

I have experienced this **** first-hand, and the judge routinely just shrugs it off.

10-06-2017 , 10:04 AM

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Police in Utah fatally shot a man from behind while he was running away from officers, according to newly released footage, which has sparked accusations of racial profiling and a “brutal execution”.

Prosecutors in Salt Lake City have said officers were justified in killing Patrick Harmon, 50, who was pulled over for riding a bicycle without a light and who attempted to flee when police tried to arrest him. Police are not facing charges despite the fact that the body-camera footage captured officer Clinton Fox shouting “I’ll ****ing shoot you!” from a distance before he fired three bullets into Harmon, who was running in the opposite direction.

“They just murdered him flat out,” Alisha Shaw, Harmon’s niece, told the Guardian on Thursday after watching the footage. “They are lying. There is no way they were threatened by anything. He was only trying to get away.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ampaign=buffer

10-06-2017 , 10:22 AM

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OneEyedPoker

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^I mean who needs to pursue someone on foot when a bullet would catch them way faster. At least one of the officers had enough sense to use a taser too bad his trigger happy partner used a gun.

10-06-2017 , 11:53 PM

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June 12, 2017 - 900 High School Students in Georgia Groped by Officers During Warrantless Drug Sweep, Lawsuit Says

October 4, 2017 - Ga. sheriff indicted for sexual battery in high school drug search

Odds they are cleared? The fact they were indicted was a little surprising, but this is "Good Ole Boy" Georgia and I expect this end up as a big nothing-burger.

10-07-2017 , 12:11 AM

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Gotta support the police

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Think of the Children

10-09-2017 , 01:31 PM

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When people say they are about law and order this is what they mean

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Two members of Baltimore’s County Council have*introduced a new resolution*to tighten public access to body camera footage. The measure, introduced by Republican councilmen Todd Crandell and Wade Kach, comes after*dozens of criminal cases*were dropped in Baltimore following the release of camera footage that seemingly uncovered officer misconduct.

This summer, public defenders in four separate cases have accused officers of either planting evidence or faking body camera footage.

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Although members of the council say they want to limit access in order to protect victims’ and bystanders’ privacy—“without trampling upon the overarching goal of transparency in police/community relations”—ACLU Maryland attorney David Rocah says the measure is “unnecessary and deeply misguided.” As he notes, Baltimore PD footage is already governed by statewide legislation, the Public Information Act.

....

A vote on the measure is scheduled for October 16th.

I hope it fails but the motives can't be any more transparent

https://gizmodo.com/following-faked-...ium=socialflow

10-11-2017 , 03:43 AM

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excellent interview with former Baltimore cop outting the institutional bull**** permeating modern American policing

cliffs version: link

supercliffs: alienation & dehumanization of the non-cop perpetuating institutional racism

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10-19-2017 , 11:03 AM

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What's kind of amazing about this is these cops get fired or sanctioned by the city for doing corrupt things and then get hired onto some wierd quazi private protest breaker company In Saint Louis

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He is also accused of using his 0311 Tactical company to blur the line on whether he is acting as a police officer or a private security guard at the protests. The company’s website listed the City of St. Louis as one of its clients, until reporters asked about it, and then the notation was mysteriously removed from the site. (But of course nothing dies on the internet. You can see the screenshots here.)

0311 Tactical does list the St. Louis Cardinals as a client, providing a “quick reaction force” of SWAT officers. However, when Rossomanno was on duty as a supervising officer for the city, he suddenly appeared at a protest outside the Cardinals’ stadium and declared that the protesters had to leave because they were on private property. According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:

The 2006 ordinance that governs street closures during Cardinals games makes no mention of private property. Nor does it outline police authority to ban some members of the public while allowing others.

For whom is Rossomanno working?

0311 Tactical will not reveal how many police officers it employs, but according to the Riverfront Times, a cached version of the site includes the name Ronnie Fowlkes, who was fired from the SLPD in 2008 after sending an email to a number of police officers and 0311 employees following the election of Barack Obama that read, in part: “I can’t believe I live in a country of ****** LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” (Yes, we included all 31 exclamation points from the original email. You’re welcome.)

http://www.theroot.com/there-s-a-cop...e_Root_twitter

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The company declines to say how many St. Louis police officers it employs. The founding papers filed with the Missouri Secretary of State name Rossomanno and police Captain Michael Deeba, a controversial supervisor who was implicated in a costly retaliation case and disciplined when officers under his command were caught helping themselves to World Series tickets seized from scalpers.

A tweet from 2015 shows Rossomanno posing with a client and others identified as 0311 instructors. One of the men is former St. Louis police officer Jason Flanery, who fatally shot VonDerrit Myers Jr. in 2014 in the Shaw neighborhood and was later forced out of the department when he crashed a police SUV after drinking and using cocaine.

A cached version of the company website lists officer Joshua Becherer, who was sued along with Rossomanno and other officers by journalists who were arrested several years ago in Ferguson. The out-of-town reporters claimed they were trying to get back to their car when they were intercepted by police in armored vehicles. The officers motioned them to come forward. When they did, holding their press credentials above their heads, Becherer shot them both with what they believed to be rubber bullets, according to the suit. Rossomanno was supervising, the journalists claimed. The city eventually settled the suit.

https://www.riverfronttimes.com/stlo...31&storyPage=4

10-19-2017 , 11:15 AM

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Has Missouri always been that crazy? Everything I've heard about them since Ferguson does not paint a pretty picture.

10-19-2017 , 04:41 PM

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The IRS stole $59,000 from an immigrant small business owner and refuses to return it

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Oh Suk Kwon, who left South Korea for America in 1976, served as a fleet mechanic in the U.S. Army. After four years in the military, decades of working in an electrical plant and as an auto mechanic, after raising the kids and seeing them off to their adult lives, Kwon finally bought a gas station in Ellicott City in 2007. It meant everything to him.

Then the IRS accused him of structuring, took all his money, and never gave it back despite no evidence of criminal activity

10-30-2017 , 11:01 AM

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A VICE News investigation has found that a rarely examined federal rule lets police attorneys effectively smear victims of police violence in civil trials, and further tilts the scales of justice in favor of the police. This rule — known as 609 — is so broad that it can allow attorneys to bring up almost any aspect of a plaintiff’s criminal record at trial, no matter how trivial or how unrelated to the facts of the case.

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The jury was allowed to hear in great detail about all four of her convictions, for bank fraud and grand theft. Not so for the officers’ disciplinary records, which the judge refused to allow into evidence — one officer, Ryan Robinson, had a disciplinary file that included two off-duty DUI car crashes in April 2014. In one crash, he injured two girls in a supermarket parking lot.

After a 10-hour jury deliberation, Latasha lost her case 7-1. After the decision was announced, she ran out of the courtroom, went into her car, locked the door, and cried.

On the day after the trial, Robinson got into two separate hit-and-run accidents while driving with a suspended license. He was asked to resign from the Miami-Dade police force the following year.

https://news.vice.com/story/police-s...icenewstwitter

10-30-2017 , 09:23 PM

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The courts rule that this

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"If y'all, this is how I feel, if y'all think I did it, I know that I didn't do it so why don't you just give me a lawyer dog cause this is not what's up."

is not an obvious reference asking for a lawyer, because, perhaps, the man wanted a lawyer dog and not a lawyer, dawg.

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In my view, the defendant’s ambiguous and equivocal reference to a
“lawyer dog” does not constitute an invocation of counsel that warrants termination
of the interview and does not violate Edwards v. Arizona, 451 U.S. 477, 101 S.Ct.
1880, 68 L.Ed.2d 378 (1981).

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/30/he...-dog-the-court

http://www.lasc.org/opinions/2017/17...jc.addconc.pdf

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10-30-2017 , 10:30 PM

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they're bad dogs, brent

10-31-2017 , 10:37 AM

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Someone did point out that even if he were asking for a lawyer dog, he's still asking for a lawyer.

11-05-2017 , 01:15 AM

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So I'm not sure what's worse, a cop knocking some drunk chick out cold when she's already being restrained by five guys or all the bootlickers in the responses who think that this is in any way a proportionate response

11-05-2017 , 01:36 AM

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One of those people is going to get charged with assualt.

11-05-2017 , 10:01 AM

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I’m not saying he should have punched her, but maybe don’t slap a cop in the face if you don’t want to get punched by said cop.

11-05-2017 , 11:08 AM

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I’m not saying he should have punched her, but maybe don’t slap a cop in the face if you don’t want to get punched by said cop.

She shouldn't have slapped him. He should still be prosecuted. That had nothing to do with him protecting himself.

11-07-2017 , 11:27 AM

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Since we were on the topic of stadiums, not sure how I feel about this one:

11-07-2017 , 11:38 AM

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See nothing wrong with it, she was acting like a child and why the hell was she smoking there? Don't most stadiums have smoking designated areas, unless she thinks she's too good for that?

11-07-2017 , 11:46 AM

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The cop probably should have called for backup and told her (he could have done this) he'd remove her by force.

11-07-2017 , 11:48 AM

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Meh, as much as it's an old lady and old ladies aren't exactly an oppressed group it might be tempting to just be fine with it she deserved it, but there are plenty of times where a black guy gets arrested and drug around and plenty of people say, "why was he being uppity? He should have done....." where whatever means complete obedience to the officer immediately. So I'd say even though the lady was being annoying the cop should have spend a couple of more times talking to her before arresting her.

I get that being a cop and dealing with aholes is a thankless task and everyone probably would want to drag a lady around who held her cigarette up like the cop was supposed to be some servant to put it out for her, but the cop has the power to assault the lady without anyone doing anything, arrest her, and pretty much make her life miserable and cops shouldn't be able to use that ability just because people are annoying.

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