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View Poll Results: Who will NOT survive the month of July?
Jefferson Beauregard Sessions III 2 3.92%
John Kelly 18 35.29%
Jared Kushner 1 1.96%
Wilbur Ross 4 7.84%
Ben Carson 0 0%
Rudy Giuliani 1 1.96%
Scott Pruitt 15 29.41%
Kellyanne Conway 2 3.92%
Rod Rosenstein 3 5.88%
Write-in 5 9.80%
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:40 AM   #176
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:44 AM   #177
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:46 AM   #178
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The Russians did do the terrible work of sacrificing 20 million people to kill 2 million Germans, but I wouldn't call aligning with Hitler and then getting betrayed exactly a bailout. They would have liked nothing more than for Germany to have attacked England instead of them.
If you'd rather say we were bailed out by hitler's hubris than russians specifically that's a fair position.
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Old 07-04-2018, 10:57 AM   #179
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If you'd rather say we were bailed out by hitler's hubris than russians specifically that's a fair position.
You were always going to win because of America. You know we supplied a lot of the equipment to the Soviets too. Industrial capacity, natural resources and a virtually unassailable position and all. Hitler was dumb, but that's often overstated imo. Germany needed more resources than they could have gotten focusing on Britain.

It is July 4th and all. I will go to bat for WW2 and the revolutionary war.
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Old 07-04-2018, 11:02 AM   #180
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You were always going to win because of America. You know we supplied a lot of the equipment to the Soviets too. Industrial capacity, natural resources and a virtually unassailable position and all. Hitler was dumb, but that's often overstated imo. Germany needed more resources than they could have gotten focusing on Britain.
Yeah in reality it was american steel, british brains, and soviet blood together that won the war. It's more fun to mock the silly reductionist post above (Praetor1an not you) with a similarly reductionist response however.

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Old 07-04-2018, 11:17 AM   #181
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Without the usa there's no appeament policy and hitler would have been swatted away. Then again there's probably no napolenoic war either so it's all moot - history would be totally different
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:03 PM   #182
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:04 PM   #183
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:06 PM   #184
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Abolition would have come faster without independence
Not at all obvious imo. The British Empire would have had the same financial incentive to keep slavery running as the US did, also they would have had just as much difficulty getting the South to knock it off.

Best case scenario is the South would wind up like colonial Jamaica (which to be fair was more humane than the American South) and most likely the states would eventually rebel for the same reasons every other colony left the British Empire (i.e. you guys were total dicks to everyone).


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Old 07-04-2018, 12:10 PM   #185
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The article does cover this objection fwiw, and agrees things would still have been crap just not quite as crap.
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:37 PM   #186
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The Thai cave story is just brutal. Really hoping they get them out of there and it does not take 4 months to wait for the rainy season to end. How can they mentally survive on a 15 foot strip of sand for 4 months and what if the flooding is worse than expected?

They are in a land locked region and apparently most of them can't swim. It is a very difficult swim out with no visibility in fast moving muddy water that takes hours to be made by pros. But what I am wondering is how frequently they can take breaks and stretch the dive out? Also, the kids are so tiny, can't they just have four experienced divers basically drag them out?
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Underwater with no visibility is a really panicky situation. Add never swimming or diving in your life and it's ripe for disaster. If a kid panics in the middle and tries to swim up into a cavity - where there's no air - it could be disastrous for everyone.

Really weird problem. Maybe they can bore in from some direction.
It's 2018 and it seems like there should be a technological solution to this problem. What about giving them a general anesthetic and strapping them into a sleek survival pod with a 6-hour air supply? Then attach to a long winch line and drag 'em out like a car stuck in a ditch. Or maybe more realistically, strap each kid to a pro diver like a tandem skydive.
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Old 07-04-2018, 12:51 PM   #187
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The best thing about declaring independence is that it's given us two and a half centuries of delicious British tears over losing their most valuable territory.
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Old 07-04-2018, 01:04 PM   #188
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It's 2018 and it seems like there should be a technological solution to this problem. What about giving them a general anesthetic and strapping them into a sleek survival pod with a 6-hour air supply? Then attach to a long winch line and drag 'em out like a car stuck in a ditch. Or maybe more realistically, strap each kid to a pro diver like a tandem skydive.
General anesthetic + hoping they keep breathing through the regulator would be a bad idea.

Survival pod is interesting as long as you weight it to be neutral buoyant with all that air. That might make it very bulky though, and obviously this isn't the ideal situation for prototype testing.

Most likely there's narrow channels and rocks where things would get snagged.
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Old 07-04-2018, 01:11 PM   #189
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https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPoli...jCfhknqHf6trRw

This guy for president? Oh never mind. Not yet.

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Old 07-04-2018, 01:40 PM   #190
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Police with automatic weapons and an armored assault vehicle marching down the street. Murcia, land of freedom.
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:13 PM   #191
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Is that Redwood City? Gross
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Old 07-04-2018, 02:14 PM   #192
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The best thing about declaring independence is that it's given us two and a half centuries of delicious British tears over losing their most valuable territory.
India?
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Old 07-04-2018, 03:45 PM   #193
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NYT Magazine: Can the A.C.L.U. Become the N.R.A. for the Left?

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In the 15 months that followed the election, the A.C.L.U.’s membership went from 400,000 to 1.84 million. Online donations in the years before averaged between $3 and $5 million annually. Since then, it has raised just shy of $120 million. “Until Trump,” Romero told me, “most of our support came from people who have been with us since we challenged Nixon. Now we’re kind of cool. Cool’s not a word generally associated with us.”
Also this part kind of hurts to read: the ACLU's plan for a Hillary presidency

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After years at the Center for Constitutional Rights and a professorship at Georgetown Law, Cole took over as the A.C.L.U.’s national legal director a week and a half before Trump took office. He accepted the job in the late summer of 2016, when the future was all Hillary Clinton and Merrick Garland and the first liberal Supreme Court in nearly 50 years. “Anthony wooed me with visions of presiding over the new golden age of civil rights and civil liberties litigation,” he said when I first met him. (Romero walked me through the plans they had formulated in the event of a Clinton victory: “Knocking out the death penalty as unconstitutional. Establishing solitary confinement as cruel and unusual punishment. Challenging the Hyde Amendment,” which prohibits Medicaid funding for a vast majority of abortion services. “Blanket protection against L.G.B.T. discrimination. The application of the Fourth Amendment and privacy protections in a digital world. Indigent defense and racial profiling and mass incarceration. ...”)
2016 set us back so, so far.

The ACLU's national political director, who joined in January 2017, was quite prescient about the future of Trump's presidency:

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When I first met Shakir, a month or so after he started the job, I asked if he could imagine anything that would cause Republicans to start peeling away from the president. He smiled and slowly shook his head. “My prediction is that we will see levels of cowardice and cynicism that will be awe-inspiring. As long as Trump doesn’t start offending the evangelical base or step on a land mine when it comes to Israel, they’re going to let him do whatever he wants.”
How efforts to turn out the vote have worked so far, using Krasner's victory for Philadelphia DA as an example:

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The earliest test case took place in May 2017 during a Democratic primary for district attorney in Philadelphia. The race represented a rare open seat in one of America’s most heavily incarcerated cities. Udi Ofer, the A.C.L.U.’s deputy national political director, analyzed voting patterns and estimated that A.C.L.U. members in the Philadelphia area — 11,438 voters — made up roughly a quarter of all the people who vote in primaries there. They then hired formerly incarcerated individuals to go door to door, talking about their experience in prison and mass incarceration. It was a simple message, Romero said: “If you were to cast a meaningful vote in this D.A. race, here are the issues we think you should consider.” The winner of that primary and ultimately the election was Larry Krasner, whose reform-focused approach to racial discrimination in policing is more or less unheard-of among big-city district attorneys in the United States.
They also did advocacy for winning candidates in Wisconsin's state Supreme Court race, and Mecklenburg County sheriff.

And, bringing it all together, how the ACLU's mission is shifting in the age of Trump:

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In a recent article for The New Yorker by Benjamin Wallace-Wells, Ira Glasser, who preceded Romero as the A.C.L.U.’s executive director for two decades, said of the involvement in candidates’ races: “I regard this as a departure which has the capacity to destroy the organization as it has always existed.” What the A.C.L.U. does, Glasser and others have pointed out, is unique among advocacy groups in America. It is the only one purely committed to defending the Constitution. Once you wade into politics, the sanctity of that commitment risks getting stained.

I brought this critique up with Romero. “These claims of catastrophic damage to the organization’s future,” Romero said, but then trailed off with a shrug, as if to imply he found it hard to take them too seriously. “What can I say? Some people don’t like change. Are we endorsing candidates? No. Are we creating a PAC? No. Will we sue the asses off of any candidate who might benefit from our involvement now if they do the wrong thing on civil liberties? Yes. Does anyone get a pass from us in the future? Hell, no. What we’re doing is operationalizing. Just like the N.R.A. It’s time. If anything, the A.C.L.U. has been too reluctant to involve ourselves in the political process.”
It also goes into detail on the ACLU's lawsuit on behalf of Ms. L, a Congolese refugee who arrived legally at a US port of entry to request asylum and was separated from her kid for months anyway. Heartbreaking story.


If you love America, or at least what it pretends to stand for, I hope you'll consider supporting the ACLU if you don't already.
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Not at all obvious imo. The British Empire would have had the same financial incentive to keep slavery running as the US did, also they would have had just as much difficulty getting the South to knock it off.

Best case scenario is the South would wind up like colonial Jamaica (which to be fair was more humane than the American South) and most likely the states would eventually rebel for the same reasons every other colony left the British Empire (i.e. you guys were total dicks to everyone).


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India?
If that was your most valuable territory it's an even stronger argument in favor of us taking this one from you before you screwed it up.
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Old 07-04-2018, 05:48 PM   #196
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It's 2018 and it seems like there should be a technological solution to this problem. What about giving them a general anesthetic and strapping them into a sleek survival pod with a 6-hour air supply? Then attach to a long winch line and drag 'em out like a car stuck in a ditch. Or maybe more realistically, strap each kid to a pro diver like a tandem skydive.
In a news report earlier today the divers who found the kids said that the caves were so narrow in parts that they had to remove their air tanks to squeeze through. Also that the route was lined with jagged rocks that jutted out.

The gallery that the kids are stranded in is approx half a mile from the surface above them. Drilling down might be the most feasable choice.
Report also stated that another monsoon is due to hit in the next few days.

Tough situation all round, gonna call for some tough decisions.
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If that was your most valuable territory it's an even stronger argument in favor of us taking this one from you before you screwed it up.
Not sure we could have screwed it up more than you lot have but I'm sure we would have had a good go.

The war of independence was the biggest catstrophie in history imo. I'd have just let you have it. The Liberals never wanted to fight over it but tragically the mad king and his merry men got their way.
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A man and woman found unconscious in Wiltshire were poisoned by Novichok, the same nerve agent as ex-Russian spy Sergei Skripal, police say.
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Question:

I'm acting as a guarantor for a loan, and submitted a form w/ personal financial details to a bank. To make sure it was handled securely (as the form has enough details to steal my identity), I physically took the form into the bank branch.

The person receiving the loan just contacted me to let me know that the person they're working with at the bank emailed them the ****ing form as a PDF attachment. I trust this person, but obviously having that form be sent over email is worrying. So:
1. Is it likely that emails traveling over the tubes can/will be hijacked easily by nefarious parties for sensitive personal data? and,
2. Do I have any recourse (legal or otherwise) for the negligence of this ****ing moron at the bank?
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when im not feeling bp and read my own posts im all like eww gross im sorry you guys have to endure them bye.
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