Is there any amount of cartoonish pandering that GOP voters will reject? Stay tuned!

Oh? Is that because they are so much healthier than the richer people?

The other thing about assimilation I read recently was that America's birthright citizenship for children drives assimilation in the parents. Basically, immigrants with citizen children put their kids in school and have their kids do other American things, and their kids learning English and getting into American culture is a kick in the ass to the parents to do likewise. Parents with noncitizen kids tend to keep them in the insular immigrant community and do likewise themselves.

Compared to America, it might feel that way.

A bit over 10% of the population of the UK is Muslim. Only 1% of the American population identifies as Muslim. Of course this doesn't factor in that most of those dolts haven't seen a Muslim in their entire lives.

Probably because they don't have 9K to spare on healthcare. After all they are in the bottom 50%.

Makes sense the opposite way as well. For example, my former American colleagues in Spain got married and started a family there. They both have children who are as Spanish as your typical Spanish kid and by necessity they had to pick up the language to be able to operate as a family there.

The actual figure is around half of that.

Yeah I got that confused with the number in London.

It's because health insurance doesn't cost everyone in the bottom 50% $900 a month. Thank you for asking, tho.

Holy **** is that El Nido?

If so then I can vouch for this not being a one off. We christened one of the islands there Instagram island due to the number of people taking exactly this photograph.

No that's not restating the original argument. Why doesn't it cost everyone in the bottom 50% $900?

Is one factor that the bottom 50% includes the around 12% that pays $0 because they don't have health insurance?

I'm not familiar with this forum, but I imagine there are previous debates arguing very similar issues to Suzzer and I - relative vs absolute poverty. Are there any particularly iconic threads that y'all might recommend for me to read?

Like the benefit of going bankrupt to pay for surgery?

Like the benefit of being able to call your GP and seeing them the same day.

If I was to call my NHS* doctor right now (1.27pm, 31 July) I expect the first available non-urgent/emergency appointment would be around 13 August, give or take 4 days.



*technically not UK, but that's a trivial detail

Who told you that's how it works in the US and why did you believe them?

Who can say really whether our system of debt slavery is good or bad

LOL, right? Our local hospital opened a walk-in clinic because there was a huge demand for immediate service, but none of the GPs in the area were able to accommodate. Hell, most GPs aren't taking new patients. It's sort of a big deal when one of them is.

Josem,

You have a crappy doctor. I can get a same day appointment for my GP basically any time (have done it 3 times in the past few months for various ailments).

I really want to know who's spreading stories overseas that our doctors are so under-worked that they're sitting around their offices waiting for walk-ins.

Doctor Wait Times Soar 30% In Major U.S. Cities

It's not worth the five seconds it takes to laugh at selfish deplorables who think universal health care is a bad idea.

Plus there's like 5 free walk in centres in my local city where you will 100% be seen eventually (usually a 3-4 hour wait depending on severity) and 2 local hospitals with pretty good A&E times especially for urgent cases. I guarantee you can see a doctor today for free if you want to.

Not sure why that's the case for you.

For me, just gotta walk in early in the morning. Even when I lived in Spain, I never had to wait more than a couple of days for an appointment for non-emergency treatment. Of course they had urgent care walk-in facilities to visit if you needed help though you'd basically spend an entire afternoon there before getting seen.

Anyway, you can always get private healthcare if you can afford it. I had the option in Spain but declined because I was content with the public system.

Josem lives on the Isle of Man. Pretty sure that is not a trivial detail.

I guess we finally got to the bottom of who was actually behind 9/11, Ronald McDonald.

Ah I see, well there's probably a tribal witchdoctor he can see after his wickerman duties no?

I mean the 60 people living on fair isle probably don't get the best medical treatment straight away either but it's hardly indicative of the UK overall.

I'm sure I saw more Muslims in my last trip to NYC vs. my trip to London.