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July LC Thread **Survivor White House Edition**

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07-10-2018 , 01:22 AM

#551

uDevil

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Well he actually went there, which as long as he didn't interfere, is something.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016443130017505280

I don't recall seeing the video posted. Speaking as a nondiver, noncaver chicken****, this thing seems impractical. Being made of rocket parts is not a big plus imo.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016110809662066688

ETA, from BBC:

Quote:

Posted at 22:10
Musk's offer 'not practical' for this mission
The head of the rescue mission, Narongsak Osotthanakorn, has been asked whether he can make use of Elon Musk's offer to help.

He says he acknowledges the help of Musk and his team, but that "the equipment they brought to help us is not practical with our mission".

"Even though their equipment is technologically sophisticated, it doesn’t fit with our mission to go in the cave."

Last edited by uDevil; 07-10-2018 at 01:44 AM. Reason: BBC

07-10-2018 , 02:20 AM

#552

wheatrich

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Most likely it'd fail like Teslas are atm.

I assume he got press for this which is all he wanted anyway.

07-10-2018 , 02:28 AM

#553

goofball

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1) Assuming evil motives from everyone must be exhausting
2) I remember reading AK is from overplaying it

07-10-2018 , 03:11 AM

#554

6ix

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"On tilt" is from medieval jousting when you got bad beat off your horse, n00bz.

07-10-2018 , 03:24 AM

#555

6ix

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Yeah I just made that up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

Is there any compelling etymology that tilt comes from pinball? Poker tilt is playing like **** and losing all your money. When you tilt a pinball machine the game just stops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

I never played much pinball so I forgot, but tilt was used in the "off your game" sense and was associated with pinball, maybe because if you got frustrated you you'd be more inclined to cheat by tilting the machine. There are references to that in old cartoons- a tilt sign would sometimes appear when Bugs Bunny or whoever got his nemesis really mad. Naturally I can't find a quick example on yt though.

Eta I guess that doesn't mean it originated with pinball.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078400/

When you get mad at pinball you rough-handle the game and tilt it. It's definitely where the poker term came from.

It's more like in high-level pinball you're supposed to nudge and shift the machine and come just short of tilting it, but if you're down in points you'll be more inclined to play and loose and accidentally tilt it. When this happens you lose your bonus points for that ball and the point deficit problem is compounded and you faster and looser, on tilt.

07-10-2018 , 05:44 AM

#556

simplicitus

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Yup, definitely from pinball.

And the problem with AK is definitely overplaying. I, like many who played mainly tournies would play nervous with AJ and sometimes fold A10, except late, where it's always the nuts.

07-10-2018 , 06:38 AM

#557

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 6ix

"On tilt" is from medieval jousting when you got bad beat off your horse, n00bz.

I was going to say 'Don Quixote' as another film/etc.

It's not quite the same thing as pinball/poker type tilt but it should be.

07-10-2018 , 07:59 AM

#558

jalfrezi

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BBC

Thai Navy Seal team: 12 boys and their coach are out

The Navy Seal team in charge of the rescue says that the 12 boys and their coach who were trapped in the cave have been brought out, completing an extraordinary and arduous rescue operation that captivated the world.

The Seals posted to Facebook: "12 wild boars and coach out of the cave. Everyone safe."

07-10-2018 , 08:20 AM

#559

stinkubus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofball

1) Assuming evil motives from everyone must be exhausting
2) I remember reading AK is from overplaying it

Assuming evil motives from those greedy enough to accumulate > $1 billion in wealth isn't the quite the same as "everyone".

07-10-2018 , 08:57 AM

#560

True North

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Originally Posted by Oroku$aki

Aside, I've read that AK was called "walking back to Houston" because the old rounders played it so well they sent their opponents home broke without cab or bus fare, but I've also read it was called that because people would overplay it and find themselves walking back to Houston. They can't both be correct, can they?

I’ve heard the second story many times — TJ Cloutier mentions it in his NL book — but never the first.

07-10-2018 , 09:23 AM

#561

Kafja

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Quote:

He says he acknowledges the help of Musk and his team, but that "the equipment they brought to help us is not practical with our mission".

"Even though their equipment is technologically sophisticated, it doesn’t fit with our mission to go in the cave."

lol

translation: 'this rich idiot turned up uninvited with his useless rick and morty machine to 'help' us do a job we were already in the middle of doing extremely well. thanks, i guess.'

07-10-2018 , 09:30 AM

#562

Namath12

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Elon Musk is the Donald Trump of Mark Cubans

07-10-2018 , 09:50 AM

#563

Kafja

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07-10-2018 , 10:16 AM

#564

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 6ix

To not derail the trump thread:

Fight.

I don't particularly want to defend the formula companies, and I agree it seems obviously bad to give formula made from unsafe water to babies. However, I don't see, at all, why it's obviously unethical to do an RCT on breastmilk. Why would that be unethical? Also, if the evidence is so strong that everybody knows formula is bad, why is including an evidence-based standard problematic?

07-10-2018 , 10:24 AM

#565

microbet

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Seems pretty obvious that formula is not that bad, just about every baby in my generation in America was raised on formula, but breast milk is better. You might be introducing other factors that would be hard to control for, but you could find a sample of babies for which breast milk is not available.

The whole subject is kind of rife with mansplaining though. My kids were breastfed but I basically expressed no opinion on the matter. I would have been fine with whatever my wife wanted to do.

07-10-2018 , 11:15 AM

#566

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

Also, if the evidence is so strong that everybody knows formula is bad, why is including an evidence-based standard problematic?

I wouldn't trust Trump administration research into whether or not the sky was blue, let alone something with billions of dollars on the line.

The EPA's been sitting on a report about formaldehyde causing leukemia for at least 5 months.

07-10-2018 , 11:52 AM

#567

pvn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Elon Musk is the Donald Trump of Mark Cubans

perfect

07-10-2018 , 11:59 AM

#568

suzzer99

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+1 ^^^

Brutal thread.

07-10-2018 , 12:33 PM

#569

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Oroku$aki

Quote:

Originally Posted by True North

I’ve heard the second story many times — TJ Cloutier mentions it in his NL book — but never the first.

I read the first in some poker book, possibly Big Deal, and was like, nah, it's got to be from overplaying it (I mean, it's Texas Holdem). Just doesn't make sense given how many nicknames for it are about overplaying/it never winning.

07-10-2018 , 12:33 PM

#570

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

The only reason Elon gets **** is as a reaction to the hero worship.

I mean, there's the anti-union stuff and all that, too.

07-10-2018 , 12:51 PM

#571

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

I mean, there's the anti-union stuff and all that, too.

Yeah, but people wouldn't be very interested in the opinions of the owner of the smallest car company in America otherwise. Do you think the CEO of General Motors is pro-union?

07-10-2018 , 12:54 PM

#572

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

it’s because babies can’t give consent to have scientific testing done on them. like, you can follow babies who were breastfed and compare their health to babies who weren’t, but putting them in a trial where you expect some babies to have worse health outcomes is where it’s unethical.

07-10-2018 , 12:57 PM

#573

stinkubus

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LOL that someone who is clearly as intelligent as bobman (not a dig, I mean that sincerely) would need that explained to him.

07-10-2018 , 02:53 PM

#574

ScreaminAsian

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https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/stat...55064159993856

07-10-2018 , 03:58 PM

#575

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

Are you saying they never do clinical trials on children? Or they can only do them if the EV of the two treatments being tested is equal (whatever that would mean)? But even if you had those rules, why couldn't you take parents who don't intend to breastfeed and randomly assign the children to receive either formula or donated breastmilk?

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