What good is a kid-size submarine supposed to do when some of the cracks are so small that divers can barely fit through?

So that's 4 more rescued.

That's a total of 8 more people successfully rescued than I expected.

I'm absolutely on team Woz and think Jobs was a fraud who got bailed out by an animation studio and an no-tech mp3 player*.

Musk is a guy with very real science and engineering credentials and accomplishments. I don't even understand the "He's a billionaire and a large chunk of that money is tax incentives you paid for!" argument. They were not, to my knowledge, Musk/Tesla only tax incentives and they seem to have been successful in boosting the electric car market generally. Also, Musk has demonstrated a willingness to go broke, almost doing so with SpaceX and Tesla, and seems to have fought off outsiders or financiers who have tried to take control away from him.

I'm not a Musk fanboy, but reading dismissive comments in this thread makes me want to write overlong posts defending the dude. Like what would you do in his shoes if you could? Probably stuff a lot like he does. Far be it to cast aspersions on the Pixilated Boat twitter account, but I really don't get the Musk hate. To be fair, I think he's left of center, certainly socially but probably even economically, while many of his haters seem to see him as some kind of Ayn Rand figure. Hell, I hate Peter Thiel and don't much like Zuckerberg, but it's possible to differentiate Musk and Thiel on many levels.

Like what's even the gripe with Musk, they he doesn't pay his employees 3x market wages? That he tweets too much? Some of his tweets are damn funny, and he often makes solid non-obvious references and trolls stupid ****.


*Interesting question, did Napster reanimate Apple?

wow, so this is your short, non-fanboy version of this post?

Let the experts do their job? They seem to know what they’re doing.

Did you follow the 'Musk steals guy's drawing' kerfuffle recently?

What was the point of building, and then telling the world about, something that definitely is not going to be used (and was obviously never going to be used) and probably wouldn't work anyway? I don't see how you can assume musk was acting in good faith here.

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https://jalopnik.com/tesla-used-an-a...lon-1827203049

I think with Elon the good outweighs the bad. He really does seem to be loaded up with hubris and arrogance though.

Musk is a total fraud. That company could not be more ****ed, and he has committed securities fraud. LOL Solar City merger, loading one cash burning machine on top of another while bailing yourself out.

It's not hard to build a cool product while incinerating $10 billion+ of OPM.

remember when he threw a tantrum about how the media, which has spent given him a billion fawning cover stories calling him a genius and the savior of humanity, is biased and he was going to create his own media ratings site to tell people the TRUTH? lol

also how he says unbelievably stupid **** like this



and obviously hates unions, won't let his workers unionize, and has them working in **** conditions for **** pay

remember when he pitched the stupidest idea imaginable because the idea of being near ordinary people is so viscerally disgusting to him?

also spends all day on twitter arguing with people and getting owned because he's not actually smart, while also having this to say about his family:

also his ****ing awful le epic bacon reddit reference humor is somehow even worse

and his lapdog fans are utterly pathetic disgusting swine

also he's got a stupid fat potato face

Indeed. From that thread:
"I don't much care for your negative tone nor cynicism in a situation that simply only requires an outpouring of goodwill, faith and prayer."

I mean, you seem to be aware that Tesla and SpaceX are subsidized, I don't know how much easier it can be to explain it.

I like that halfway through defending your God King from commoner insults you forgot what you were defending him about and just starting telling us tales of his valor and bravery.

OK, first off, don't lie. Second off, don't just narrate your inner monologue. When we're reading your overlong post defending the dude, we don't need a line explaining that you want to write such a post. We already know

Sam Harris fan once again enormously misunderstands the political spectrum lol maybe instead of listening to podcasts that lie to you constantly you could try expanding your ****ing horizons. Musk is a union-busting libertarian how the **** can you think he's left economically?

Oh my god dude he's never gonna be your friend, he regards you as a blood bag.

remember how tesla has an ongoing class action lawsuit into racial discrimination that they've unsuccessfully been trying to bury, and Musk sent a company email requiring employees to say sorry if they accidentally do a racism, and if someone accidentally does a racism to you but then apologises, you must be 'thick skinned' and not complain

or how about when musk fired his assistant of 12 years for the crime of asking for a raise

Musk containment thread?

FWIW my limited experience with diving - young people are a lot less likely to panic imo. Kids are just used to being in weird situations and tend to roll with the punches better. I bet you'd have more problems with a bunch of older people who never dove before.

I dove 25 years ago in the Virgin Islands no problems at all. But then when I finally finished my PADI in LA last year - I had a decent panic attack the first time going down a rope where I couldn't see the bottom in murky, cold, churny water and after a tiring swim/minor battering getting out through the waves.

Only extreme embarrassment kept me from going back up. I sucked a tank of oxygen in about 20 minutes I think. I was literally underwater thinking stuff like maybe I'm too old for this ****, everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth, and fatigue makes cowards of us all. Thanks brain!

But then it got much easier each time and now I love it.

Facebook being evil sort of dovetails into the Musk derail as part of a broader “Here’s why we shouldn’t trust these techbros” conversation.

https://twitter.com/sachabaroncohen/...82033099997184

SpaceX is not heavily subsidized. Mostly some local development subsidies and one contract with the Air Force to do some development work on a proposed rocket stage. Most of their "government money" comes from providing services to the government as a customer.

You know what's fun. When you have to wait 4 weeks to finally get the other side to meet and confer about why they're just using boilerplate to describe the alleged trade secret they claim your client misappropriated, and they make bad arguments claiming they don't need to be more specific. Then you say, I guess we'll have to have the magistrate judge decide and they say, "oh ya, well we'll move for sanctions."

Then you finally get the magistrate conference set for two weeks later and she only requires a one-page factual briefing. Then the conference arrives and she spends the first 15 minutes explaining to them why they are FOS, their position is untenable, and deciding that there doesn't need to be any legal briefing because they're so obviously wrong, and she'll issue an order later today compelling them to make a specific disclosure of the trade secret. And yet they still try to make a bunch of BS arguments and cite her an out of state case (in the same appellate jurisdiction), and she says she'll read it before issuing her order. And, because you've read the case you know it says the opposite of what they told her it says (which you explained to them when they cited it to you at the meet and confer), and she's not friendly by nature and you're pretty sure that's going to kinda piss her off even more. Makes it fun.

I hope that's something like is how Trump/Mueller goes down. The bad guys hem and haw and BS and make crappy arguments forever, to where you're quite frustrated, then the sweet backhand of justice comes and smacks them upside the head.

I used to have fun sending out 102(b) rejections. Those were fun times.

I kinda like 102(b) (prior art) rejections. Either the examiner's got you or he doesn't. Much better than dealing with 103 (obviousness) rejections [of patent applications].

These days I handle as many patent litigation cases as patents I file (a few per year), because I tell most clients that 1) they can't afford a good patent, 2) their idea/invention will never be a good patent, 3) it's unpatentable subject matter, and 4) even if they could get a good patent, they are not prepared for and cannot afford the joy of patent litigation. If the client wants to proceed, I tell them I'll give them 50% off if they send me a 15-page description of the invention. This isn't 1999 (or even 2006), when things were much better for bad patents. Some still win, but they are the exception.