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John McCain.....Godspeed.  Now Actually Dead John McCain.....Godspeed.  Now Actually Dead

08-25-2018 , 09:44 PM
rep john lewis calling him a warrior

...of peace

???
08-25-2018 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by watevs
rep john lewis calling him a warrior

...of peace

???
F*cker of virginity. Torturer of mercy. Seducer of chastity. Glutton of asceticism.
08-25-2018 , 09:51 PM
imagine not thinking john mccain dying is great, buncha ****ing losers
08-25-2018 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
And on the other hand, this is pretty unfair to a lot of guys who volunteered to serve because they sincerely believed the domino theory bull**** that was being peddled. But we get it, though, you're a super edgy dude.
I don't care all that much about being unfair to people who volunteered to kill a bunch of peasants because COMMUNISM THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY. But even ignoring that, what I'm saying is quite specific to John McCain and has very little to do with the average GI.
08-25-2018 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kafja
imagine not thinking john mccain dying is great, buncha ****ing losers
I would guess that there is at least an 80% chance that McCain's replacement is a downgrade.
08-25-2018 , 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Nah, it's just that I (confidently) presume he would never have slipped a mumbling word about torture otherwise, right? So you take away the torture and he never opposes it. He opposed it? Great. Does that say good things about him, or does it say bad things about torture? I know my answer. You?
Never having met him, I am not confident in my ability to plot his counterfactual beliefs, no. Anyway, in the actual world, where he was tortured for fighting on behalf of America, he went well beyond just being opposed to torture like the rest of us and actually passed major legislation against it. This isn't just the bare minimum standard of being against torture that he passed there, but actual action for which he should be praised.

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Why didn't John McCain have some decency before volunteering to fly all those missions bombing civilian targets? Why, given that he manifestly had no such decency, am I obliged to feign some deference to him that the facts of his life simply don't warrant?
You're not obliged to show him any deference. Death is a sign of our common humanity, even with Republicans. You should give people space to grieve or show respect.

Last edited by Original Position; 08-25-2018 at 10:01 PM. Reason: grammar
08-25-2018 , 09:58 PM
Mods should just start locking these threads. Pure edgelord bait at this point.
08-25-2018 , 10:08 PM
Judging by this thread, Russian trolls are going to have a field day.
08-25-2018 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Original Position
Never having met him, I am not confident in my ability to plot his counterfactual beliefs, no. Anyway, in the actual world, where he was tortured for fighting on behalf of America, he went well beyond just being opposed to torture like the rest of us and actually passed major legislation against it. This isn't just the bare minimum standard of being against torture that he passed there, but actual action for which he should be praised.
Right, and if you or I ever attain high elected office, I expect both of us will do at least as well in that regard. Fingers crossed we can avoid agitating for as many utterly pointless wars as he did while we're there. FOH with this faux-naive bull****, you know I know you're smarter than that.

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You're not obliged to show him any deference. Death is a sign of our common humanity, even with Republicans. You should give people space to grieve or show respect.
I'm impeding nobody. Show me a friend or family member of John McCain posting ITT and I'm a ghost, I'm gone. Failing that, sorry, the thread devoted to his memory will contain everything about him worth remembering, with no obligation to pretend that everything worth remembering about him is good.
08-25-2018 , 10:14 PM
Possibility of his wife which would actually be a slight upgrade from what I've read.
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I would guess that there is at least an 80% chance that McCain's replacement is a downgrade.
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08-25-2018 , 10:25 PM
The otatop post was plagiarized from here.

Otatop's post begins:

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Originally Posted by otatop
McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment occurred on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile . . . .
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McCain's capture and subsequent imprisonment occurred on October 26, 1967. He was flying his 23rd bombing mission over Hanoi in North Vietnam when his A-4E Skyhawk was shot down by a missile . . . .
08-25-2018 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood
The otatop post was plagiarized from
I actually "plagiarized" it from Wikipedia but I thought it was obvious I didn't write that. Your "source" is also copied from Wikipedia, which you can tell because it still has the bracketed source numbers in it. Derp.

08-25-2018 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330
Mods should just start locking these threads. Pure edgelord bait at this point.
I mean, he's prominent enough to deserve a thread, but such threads usually suck, as this one does, so I'll probably lock it by tomorrow morning.
08-25-2018 , 11:09 PM
OK I laughed



https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/stat...49100480901121
08-25-2018 , 11:16 PM


Also most of the things people think of him as courageous for standing up for are things that 99% of Republicans vote for and like 10% of Democrats, so congrats at being a moderate Democrat, I guess?
08-25-2018 , 11:37 PM
McCain is a piece of ****. ****ing around behind his wife's back while he she was in a wheelchair, getting caught up in the Keating Five scandal, and keeping his mouth shut even as death knocked on his door about how ****ed up the party is right now isn't being a maverick or a person of great character. His decision to bring Sarah Palin into the 2008 election is what triggered the populist movement that eventually led to Trump.

He doesn't get to forget that because he said that Obama wasn't an Arab, but a family man (nice job implying that Arabs can't be family men) and doesn't get it for voting no on a health bill that he eventually help passed through the giant $10 trillion tax cut.

So **** him.
08-26-2018 , 12:03 AM
**** John McCain
08-26-2018 , 12:07 AM
08-26-2018 , 12:15 AM
Has any member of Congress spoke ill of another Congress person when they died? I know operatives obviously do and I'm sure Congress critters do behind closed doors but I don't put any stock in any legislator praising McCain. Its just something that everyone does in Congress.
08-26-2018 , 12:18 AM
John McCain died the way he lived: a silent complicit coward who put party over country. This was a guy with the moral conviction to vote for Betsy DeVos’s confirmation. This was a guy who had a terminal illness beholden to no votes for re-election and still couldn’t be bothered to speak out against the biggest threat to the democracy we’ve seen in a long long time who’s served as a mindless (ha!) rubber stamp to the GOP agenda and to his donors

But hey remember the time he thumbs down’d Mitch?!?! What a hero!

Piece of ****
08-26-2018 , 12:18 AM
I'm guessing there won't be a particularly notable outpouring of respectful condolences from the right when Pelosi croaks.
08-26-2018 , 12:20 AM
will also be cool when nancy pelosi dies tbh
08-26-2018 , 12:20 AM
Schumer plz
08-26-2018 , 12:23 AM
There is a difference between not being sad that someone died and being glad that he did. The latter should be reserved for monsters or for people who are doing harm as we speak.

      
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